And attack people you disagree with instead of actually trying to debate!
I notice you’re not saying this to the people who are heaping abuse on the anti-genocide wing of the party. There’s one in this thread calling people pedos for criticizing democrats. You should have a word with him.
No, because I only went through to troll you. I dont have the time to fart around doing this. If you would calm down and be less extreme in your retorts to people, it wouldnt be so bad. Conversations, not debates or arguments, will change many more minds.
I think you would agree that Israel, especially in its current form, is evil to an insane degree. They completely destroyed the people who were displaced from their homes for Israel to be formed in the first place. Before the initial bombings or fights of any description, Israels existence was already an affront to equality, just due to that land theft. Palestinians have dealt with an unimaginable amount of multigenerational suffering and torment.
A “solution” after the war shouldnt have been more racism and destruction.
I don’t want to have be manipulated into voting for genocide in order to stave off fascism only to have the people who wanted the genocide all along blaming me for the loss their reprehensible positions earned them. Not again.
And I don’t trust the centrist wing of the party and probably never will again. I’ve seen what they’re willing to do.
Its part of step plan to ween ppl off evil. Like drugs or pez. Can’t go cold turkey in real life apparently. Keep going for lesser evil until we are at baseline. Only non-violent approach.
It’s actually hilarious thought. Standardized the deviation of political parties so that not being evil becomes standard to win.
As long as you slow the acceleration you provide more chances to not fall of the cliff.
Well know that DNC in its current form refuses to do better. That just means we need to focus energy on groups/ppl that will and for that we need time and give them the benefit of having less damage to fix. Humans are finicky, you could have best candidates but if they dont fix all the issues day 1 you know fox news will tear them apart.
Hitting gas benfits no one but future mad max warlords.
Unless counties remove elections there will be more voting. Can’t change the past but we can not be dissuaded by previous failures. Don’t stop voting and promoting voting as much as possible among ppl you know or interact with. If those 20 mil ppl that voted in 2020 voted again in 2024, the world wouldnt be in this mess.
You dont have to move right, you can support progressives as much as you are able or help build a community with less insanity.
Ppl see The DNC as a party of manufacturing consent but I see them as a party of trying to get votes. They’ll move right for votes just as ill think they’ll move to get more third party votes if more ppl in the country voted. Ppl complain about third party voters but they actually care enough to vote.
Yes, change requires changing, sometimes reform needs to happen as well. I agree that democrats are, on many issues, what republicans should be right now. They are conservative and do not represent most of the country very well. They still dont want to abuse, torture, and send people to death camps. Oh, and Im sure voting against a rapist was hard.
Voting against someone as opposed to for someone is awful and definitely does result in a slide to the right. Saying it cant be overcome or being very negative about it does nothing.
I agree that democrats are, on many issues, what republicans should be right now.
Republicans have no business supporting genocide either.
They still dont want to abuse, torture, and send people to death camps.
Yeah, playing arms broker for the guy bombing hospitals was enough for them.
Oh, and Im sure voting against a rapist was hard.
No, that was the easy part. Having to constantly tell centrists that I voted for harris because they dismiss all criticism of the party as disloyalty or trump support or being a russian bot or whatever they’ve imagined because they can’t imagine valid criticism existing, now that’s the challenging bit.
Saying it cant be overcome or being very negative about it does nothing.
Being realistic about the challenges in the way instead of demanding rictus grins of positivity while the party works its magic against the left again isn’t “saying it can’t be overcome.”
The lesser evil won’t abandon evil, no matter how many times they lose.
So lets all support genocide by doing nothing! And attack people you disagree with instead of actually trying to debate!
Sorry, still trying to word vomit everywhere as much as you seem to have. You are EVERYWHERE and only occasionally reasonable.
That’s not what I’m suggesting.
I notice you’re not saying this to the people who are heaping abuse on the anti-genocide wing of the party. There’s one in this thread calling people pedos for criticizing democrats. You should have a word with him.
You certainly seem to say it a lot.
No, because I only went through to troll you. I dont have the time to fart around doing this. If you would calm down and be less extreme in your retorts to people, it wouldnt be so bad. Conversations, not debates or arguments, will change many more minds.
I think you would agree that Israel, especially in its current form, is evil to an insane degree. They completely destroyed the people who were displaced from their homes for Israel to be formed in the first place. Before the initial bombings or fights of any description, Israels existence was already an affront to equality, just due to that land theft. Palestinians have dealt with an unimaginable amount of multigenerational suffering and torment.
A “solution” after the war shouldnt have been more racism and destruction.
I don’t want to have be manipulated into voting for genocide in order to stave off fascism only to have the people who wanted the genocide all along blaming me for the loss their reprehensible positions earned them. Not again.
And I don’t trust the centrist wing of the party and probably never will again. I’ve seen what they’re willing to do.
Its part of step plan to ween ppl off evil. Like drugs or pez. Can’t go cold turkey in real life apparently. Keep going for lesser evil until we are at baseline. Only non-violent approach.
It’s actually hilarious thought. Standardized the deviation of political parties so that not being evil becomes standard to win.
Except the lesser evil keeps being a greater evil than the previous lesser evil.
As long as you slow the acceleration you provide more chances to not fall of the cliff.
Well know that DNC in its current form refuses to do better. That just means we need to focus energy on groups/ppl that will and for that we need time and give them the benefit of having less damage to fix. Humans are finicky, you could have best candidates but if they dont fix all the issues day 1 you know fox news will tear them apart.
Hitting gas benfits no one but future mad max warlords.
I voted for harris. Why are you trying to get me to vote how I voted in an election that already happened?
Then they will continue losing. The electorate can’t be lectured into supporting genocide as much as centrists demand.
So the voters are expected to move right to accommodate the party. Forever.
Unless counties remove elections there will be more voting. Can’t change the past but we can not be dissuaded by previous failures. Don’t stop voting and promoting voting as much as possible among ppl you know or interact with. If those 20 mil ppl that voted in 2020 voted again in 2024, the world wouldnt be in this mess.
You dont have to move right, you can support progressives as much as you are able or help build a community with less insanity.
Ppl see The DNC as a party of manufacturing consent but I see them as a party of trying to get votes. They’ll move right for votes just as ill think they’ll move to get more third party votes if more ppl in the country voted. Ppl complain about third party voters but they actually care enough to vote.
Then you should see an optometrist instead of an optimist.
Ah yes, your argument here includes more genocide finger waggling. And extreme slippery slope arguments. Interesting.
Yes. I’m such a scold. Ruining all your fun.
I mean, the party keeps moving to the right, and the voters keep being expected to follow. That won’t change without the party changing.
Such a scold lol I like that one
Yes, change requires changing, sometimes reform needs to happen as well. I agree that democrats are, on many issues, what republicans should be right now. They are conservative and do not represent most of the country very well. They still dont want to abuse, torture, and send people to death camps. Oh, and Im sure voting against a rapist was hard.
Voting against someone as opposed to for someone is awful and definitely does result in a slide to the right. Saying it cant be overcome or being very negative about it does nothing.
Republicans have no business supporting genocide either.
Yeah, playing arms broker for the guy bombing hospitals was enough for them.
No, that was the easy part. Having to constantly tell centrists that I voted for harris because they dismiss all criticism of the party as disloyalty or trump support or being a russian bot or whatever they’ve imagined because they can’t imagine valid criticism existing, now that’s the challenging bit.
Being realistic about the challenges in the way instead of demanding rictus grins of positivity while the party works its magic against the left again isn’t “saying it can’t be overcome.”