• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Keep going for lesser evil until we are at baseline.

    Except the lesser evil keeps being a greater evil than the previous lesser evil.

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      2 days ago

      As long as you slow the acceleration you provide more chances to not fall of the cliff.

      Well know that DNC in its current form refuses to do better. That just means we need to focus energy on groups/ppl that will and for that we need time and give them the benefit of having less damage to fix. Humans are finicky, you could have best candidates but if they dont fix all the issues day 1 you know fox news will tear them apart.

      Hitting gas benfits no one but future mad max warlords.

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        2 days ago

        As long as you slow the acceleration you provide more chances to not fall of the cliff.

        I voted for harris. Why are you trying to get me to vote how I voted in an election that already happened?

        Well know that DNC in its current form refuses to do better.

        Then they will continue losing. The electorate can’t be lectured into supporting genocide as much as centrists demand.

        That just means we need to focus energy on groups/ppl that will

        So the voters are expected to move right to accommodate the party. Forever.

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          1 day ago

          Unless counties remove elections there will be more voting. Can’t change the past but we can not be dissuaded by previous failures. Don’t stop voting and promoting voting as much as possible among ppl you know or interact with. If those 20 mil ppl that voted in 2020 voted again in 2024, the world wouldnt be in this mess.

          You dont have to move right, you can support progressives as much as you are able or help build a community with less insanity.

          Ppl see The DNC as a party of manufacturing consent but I see them as a party of trying to get votes. They’ll move right for votes just as ill think they’ll move to get more third party votes if more ppl in the country voted. Ppl complain about third party voters but they actually care enough to vote.

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            1 day ago

            Ppl see The DNC as a party of manufacturing consent but I see them as a party of trying to get votes.

            Then you should see an optometrist instead of an optimist.

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            1 day ago

            Ah yes, your argument here includes more genocide finger waggling.

            Yes. I’m such a scold. Ruining all your fun.

            And extreme slippery slope arguments. Interesting.

            I mean, the party keeps moving to the right, and the voters keep being expected to follow. That won’t change without the party changing.

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              17 hours ago

              Such a scold lol I like that one

              Yes, change requires changing, sometimes reform needs to happen as well. I agree that democrats are, on many issues, what republicans should be right now. They are conservative and do not represent most of the country very well. They still dont want to abuse, torture, and send people to death camps. Oh, and Im sure voting against a rapist was hard.

              Voting against someone as opposed to for someone is awful and definitely does result in a slide to the right. Saying it cant be overcome or being very negative about it does nothing.

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                17 hours ago

                I agree that democrats are, on many issues, what republicans should be right now.

                Republicans have no business supporting genocide either.

                They still dont want to abuse, torture, and send people to death camps.

                Yeah, playing arms broker for the guy bombing hospitals was enough for them.

                Oh, and Im sure voting against a rapist was hard.

                No, that was the easy part. Having to constantly tell centrists that I voted for harris because they dismiss all criticism of the party as disloyalty or trump support or being a russian bot or whatever they’ve imagined because they can’t imagine valid criticism existing, now that’s the challenging bit.

                Saying it cant be overcome or being very negative about it does nothing.

                Being realistic about the challenges in the way instead of demanding rictus grins of positivity while the party works its magic against the left again isn’t “saying it can’t be overcome.”