• Spacehooks@reddthat.com
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    2 days ago

    As long as you slow the acceleration you provide more chances to not fall of the cliff.

    Well know that DNC in its current form refuses to do better. That just means we need to focus energy on groups/ppl that will and for that we need time and give them the benefit of having less damage to fix. Humans are finicky, you could have best candidates but if they dont fix all the issues day 1 you know fox news will tear them apart.

    Hitting gas benfits no one but future mad max warlords.

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      As long as you slow the acceleration you provide more chances to not fall of the cliff.

      I voted for harris. Why are you trying to get me to vote how I voted in an election that already happened?

      Well know that DNC in its current form refuses to do better.

      Then they will continue losing. The electorate can’t be lectured into supporting genocide as much as centrists demand.

      That just means we need to focus energy on groups/ppl that will

      So the voters are expected to move right to accommodate the party. Forever.

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        1 day ago

        Unless counties remove elections there will be more voting. Can’t change the past but we can not be dissuaded by previous failures. Don’t stop voting and promoting voting as much as possible among ppl you know or interact with. If those 20 mil ppl that voted in 2020 voted again in 2024, the world wouldnt be in this mess.

        You dont have to move right, you can support progressives as much as you are able or help build a community with less insanity.

        Ppl see The DNC as a party of manufacturing consent but I see them as a party of trying to get votes. They’ll move right for votes just as ill think they’ll move to get more third party votes if more ppl in the country voted. Ppl complain about third party voters but they actually care enough to vote.

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          1 day ago

          Ppl see The DNC as a party of manufacturing consent but I see them as a party of trying to get votes.

          Then you should see an optometrist instead of an optimist.

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            5 hours ago

            All i hear ever is old ppl voting and dnc chasing them and moderates. Swear is same crap ever since i was a child. Which is Furthering Disenfranchising young voters for decades. Only peaceful way to make them turn head is if more young ppl vote and/or if they vote third party. DNC will shift cause all they care about is staying in power and not being the opposition party or helping ppl.

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              5 hours ago

              The DNC alienated voters last election in their rush to try to get the votes of republicans that hate them.

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          1 day ago

          Ah yes, your argument here includes more genocide finger waggling.

          Yes. I’m such a scold. Ruining all your fun.

          And extreme slippery slope arguments. Interesting.

          I mean, the party keeps moving to the right, and the voters keep being expected to follow. That won’t change without the party changing.

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            Such a scold lol I like that one

            Yes, change requires changing, sometimes reform needs to happen as well. I agree that democrats are, on many issues, what republicans should be right now. They are conservative and do not represent most of the country very well. They still dont want to abuse, torture, and send people to death camps. Oh, and Im sure voting against a rapist was hard.

            Voting against someone as opposed to for someone is awful and definitely does result in a slide to the right. Saying it cant be overcome or being very negative about it does nothing.

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              22 hours ago

              I agree that democrats are, on many issues, what republicans should be right now.

              Republicans have no business supporting genocide either.

              They still dont want to abuse, torture, and send people to death camps.

              Yeah, playing arms broker for the guy bombing hospitals was enough for them.

              Oh, and Im sure voting against a rapist was hard.

              No, that was the easy part. Having to constantly tell centrists that I voted for harris because they dismiss all criticism of the party as disloyalty or trump support or being a russian bot or whatever they’ve imagined because they can’t imagine valid criticism existing, now that’s the challenging bit.

              Saying it cant be overcome or being very negative about it does nothing.

              Being realistic about the challenges in the way instead of demanding rictus grins of positivity while the party works its magic against the left again isn’t “saying it can’t be overcome.”