And for my entire life the ‘lesser’ evil has used that as an excuse to keep getting more evil a bit at a time. So how about we go for not evil and see how that goes?
None of this exists yet, so it’s not an alternative, it’s wishful thinking.
My question was: since your choice is between Republicans or Democrats, what do you choose if you believe Dems are “as bad as” Reps? Not voting (meaning R-win)? Terror attacks (meaning R-win)? Assassinations (meaning R-win)?
That wasn’t your question. Your question was who should win which is fucking silly
Friend, are you high right now?
There are (effectively) two political parties in the USA. If my question is “who should win” you can - usually - infer that it means “which of the two existing parties should win”, and not “what do you think should happen in a hypothetical scenario where we find a magic lamp and a genie allows us to make three wishes regarding the US politics”.
R vs D is for idiots.
Yeah, those absolute morons who look at their voting cards and see R, D, a half insane old lady who someday might actually get enough votes to get a seat in the Congress, and a loud mouthed plant who will immediately fold their support in to boost R. LOL!
Pay close attention to the grey states that banned it, and then go cross reference that with what party controlls what state, then step one will become clear: the Republicans are the problem.
Your PFP shows exactly who you are. People ARE voting in the primaries for candidates that DO want to do something to stop Trump.
Politicians literally compete in mockery contests of who can do the least for their constituents and still get elected, and consistently make fun of people who want to actually work. These are the people you support.
Saying “we havent tried” and suggesting 3rd party candidates is intentionally being obstinate and uncooperative.
We need an Australian voting system. Required voting and ranked choice. That should be what you’re arguing for. Not whining that the world doesnt work how you want it.
Liberal lesser evil gave us trump. Everytime you accept a small evil it allows a slightly larger evil next time. Compounded over decades and we get trump
Maybe you should argue for a different method of voting instead, then. Liberal lesser evil didnt give us the orange diaper dumpster, the two party system based on money and gerrymandering is what did it.
Compulsory voting + Ranked choice. Are you for something like that, or are you against it? It would be a great thing to continue promoting, and its much less hateful and directly confrontational.
Id love to debate but it would just be about logical fallacies that arent really related to your intent, as your intent is expressed well.
Maybe you should argue for a different method of voting instead, then.
Any new method of voting has to be put in place by people we elect. We won’t meet the prerequisites without non-evil candidates, and it’s clear that you don’t want anyone to say anything less than worshipful about the ones we have.
I dont like any of the ones we have elected, at least not for a long time. “Both sides”-ism is what lead us to fascism, though. Worship? Thats a weird deflection and assumption. “One group isnt shooting at us, they suck at their job, we only get a little healthcare and rights under them” vs “lets take over the capital and kill everyone” is a pretty easy choice, if you dont have the memory of a goldfish.
As for new methods of voting and who would put them in place, the voting rights act was effectively removed. Itll be a very different group of people you have no desire to vote for. If you wont vote against a fascist, you must be one. Otherwise you wouldnt sit at their table.
Ahh you’re one of the reasons why more genocides are happening, now, caused by someone we definitely cant get to stop through protest. Remember, you voted for this.
Great foresight.
As for “not evil”, I want to know who has been “not evil” by your definition.
I didnt say “love genocide”, now thats you assuming I want it, or to elicit something from me. Very strange attempt to blame-shift. We could have protested and made Harris change her position. She wasnt vocally for or against the horrific and ongoing genocide due to who funded her campaign. AIPAC is evil. Netanyahu is very easily described as evil. That isnt up for discussion.
The reason it leads people to assume you didnt at least try to uphold democracy is how disgusted you seem to be about basic reality.
So how about we go for not evil and see how that goes?
Lol.
Care to elaborate?
Actually, don’t bother. THERE IS NO VIABLE THIRD PARTY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Why?
Because no 3rd party is even putting in the effort.
Voters aren’t taking any 3rd party seriously by voting for them in local/state elections to get more than ZERO of them in Congress.
So your idea of voting for not evil is throwing in your vote behind some irrelevant 3rd party that is probably also corrupt (Jill Stein) and standing absolutely, positively no chance of winning so we end up getting the most evil option.
Crossing your fingers and hoping for magical powers to make a 3rd party viable is not something us adults are interested in. Electing what is undeniably the better party and then reforming that party by primarying the bad actors out is the realistic approach that adults are interested in.
There’s been a not evil candidate in every primary that actually happened recently (historically speaking). The DNC however cannot abide anything that is not evil. They would happily let the world burn to stop it getting any amount better.
And for my entire life the ‘lesser’ evil has used that as an excuse to keep getting more evil a bit at a time. So how about we go for not evil and see how that goes?
So who do you propose should win?
You guys need to fix your system from the ground up, it’s broken. Electing the other party doesn’t change that
And in the meantime?
Make a difference on the local level. Get involved, find a candidate worth supporting and help
And what about the federal level? Just let Republicans do install Fascism while you’re working on voting the Mamdanis into cities?
I don’t care enough to continue this. It’s not my country, do whatever then 🤷♂️
Huh… You cared enough to complain, but when it’s time to actually look at the reality of the situation you no longer care? Funny how that happens.
Nah, you’re just looking for a fight. No reason to go down that road.
Ranked voting and redoing how the senate represent the masses is the first step.
Term limits is second.
Campaign promises third.
If you fix those I believe it’ll be a far better election process
What are you talking about…?
None of this exists yet, so it’s not an alternative, it’s wishful thinking.
My question was: since your choice is between Republicans or Democrats, what do you choose if you believe Dems are “as bad as” Reps? Not voting (meaning R-win)? Terror attacks (meaning R-win)? Assassinations (meaning R-win)?
That wasn’t your question. Your question was who should win which is fucking silly. So I commented who should win, people who support those measures.
R vs D is for idiots.
Friend, are you high right now?
There are (effectively) two political parties in the USA. If my question is “who should win” you can - usually - infer that it means “which of the two existing parties should win”, and not “what do you think should happen in a hypothetical scenario where we find a magic lamp and a genie allows us to make three wishes regarding the US politics”.
Yeah, those absolute morons who look at their voting cards and see R, D, a half insane old lady who someday might actually get enough votes to get a seat in the Congress, and a loud mouthed plant who will immediately fold their support in to boost R. LOL!
You did what is called a loaded question after asking a totally different question.
Stop lying bozo go be stupid somewhere else
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States
Pay close attention to the grey states that banned it, and then go cross reference that with what party controlls what state, then step one will become clear: the Republicans are the problem.
They aren’t proposing anything, which is why they shouldn’t be taken seriously.
Your PFP shows exactly who you are. People ARE voting in the primaries for candidates that DO want to do something to stop Trump.
Politicians literally compete in mockery contests of who can do the least for their constituents and still get elected, and consistently make fun of people who want to actually work. These are the people you support.
Well we tried that and now we have satan in office.
No, we haven’t tried. That’s the problem.
Saying “we havent tried” and suggesting 3rd party candidates is intentionally being obstinate and uncooperative.
We need an Australian voting system. Required voting and ranked choice. That should be what you’re arguing for. Not whining that the world doesnt work how you want it.
Liberal lesser evil gave us trump. Everytime you accept a small evil it allows a slightly larger evil next time. Compounded over decades and we get trump
Maybe you should argue for a different method of voting instead, then. Liberal lesser evil didnt give us the orange diaper dumpster, the two party system based on money and gerrymandering is what did it.
Compulsory voting + Ranked choice. Are you for something like that, or are you against it? It would be a great thing to continue promoting, and its much less hateful and directly confrontational.
Id love to debate but it would just be about logical fallacies that arent really related to your intent, as your intent is expressed well.
Any new method of voting has to be put in place by people we elect. We won’t meet the prerequisites without non-evil candidates, and it’s clear that you don’t want anyone to say anything less than worshipful about the ones we have.
I dont like any of the ones we have elected, at least not for a long time. “Both sides”-ism is what lead us to fascism, though. Worship? Thats a weird deflection and assumption. “One group isnt shooting at us, they suck at their job, we only get a little healthcare and rights under them” vs “lets take over the capital and kill everyone” is a pretty easy choice, if you dont have the memory of a goldfish.
As for new methods of voting and who would put them in place, the voting rights act was effectively removed. Itll be a very different group of people you have no desire to vote for. If you wont vote against a fascist, you must be one. Otherwise you wouldnt sit at their table.
We did not try “not evil.”
Centrists put forward a genocidal candidate without asking the voters.
Ahh you’re one of the reasons why more genocides are happening, now, caused by someone we definitely cant get to stop through protest. Remember, you voted for this.
Great foresight.
As for “not evil”, I want to know who has been “not evil” by your definition.
I should start keeping tally of how many times disagreeing with the genocidal leads them to believe that I voted how they don’t want.
I voted for harris. You want me to shut up and love genocide and nothing else.
I didnt say “love genocide”, now thats you assuming I want it, or to elicit something from me. Very strange attempt to blame-shift. We could have protested and made Harris change her position. She wasnt vocally for or against the horrific and ongoing genocide due to who funded her campaign. AIPAC is evil. Netanyahu is very easily described as evil. That isnt up for discussion.
The reason it leads people to assume you didnt at least try to uphold democracy is how disgusted you seem to be about basic reality.
Lol.
Care to elaborate?
Actually, don’t bother. THERE IS NO VIABLE THIRD PARTY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Why?
Because no 3rd party is even putting in the effort.
Voters aren’t taking any 3rd party seriously by voting for them in local/state elections to get more than ZERO of them in Congress.
So your idea of voting for not evil is throwing in your vote behind some irrelevant 3rd party that is probably also corrupt (Jill Stein) and standing absolutely, positively no chance of winning so we end up getting the most evil option.
Crossing your fingers and hoping for magical powers to make a 3rd party viable is not something us adults are interested in. Electing what is undeniably the better party and then reforming that party by primarying the bad actors out is the realistic approach that adults are interested in.
as far as i know, the prohibition party got no congressional seats, but they got a constitutional amendment.
There’s been a not evil candidate in every primary that actually happened recently (historically speaking). The DNC however cannot abide anything that is not evil. They would happily let the world burn to stop it getting any amount better.