• NerdyTimesOrWhatever@lemmy.today
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        22 hours ago

        Saying “we havent tried” and suggesting 3rd party candidates is intentionally being obstinate and uncooperative.

        We need an Australian voting system. Required voting and ranked choice. That should be what you’re arguing for. Not whining that the world doesnt work how you want it.

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      23 hours ago

      Liberal lesser evil gave us trump. Everytime you accept a small evil it allows a slightly larger evil next time. Compounded over decades and we get trump

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        22 hours ago

        Maybe you should argue for a different method of voting instead, then. Liberal lesser evil didnt give us the orange diaper dumpster, the two party system based on money and gerrymandering is what did it.

        Compulsory voting + Ranked choice. Are you for something like that, or are you against it? It would be a great thing to continue promoting, and its much less hateful and directly confrontational.

        Id love to debate but it would just be about logical fallacies that arent really related to your intent, as your intent is expressed well.

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          14 hours ago

          Maybe you should argue for a different method of voting instead, then.

          Any new method of voting has to be put in place by people we elect. We won’t meet the prerequisites without non-evil candidates, and it’s clear that you don’t want anyone to say anything less than worshipful about the ones we have.

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            53 minutes ago

            I dont like any of the ones we have elected, at least not for a long time. “Both sides”-ism is what lead us to fascism, though. Worship? Thats a weird deflection and assumption. “One group isnt shooting at us, they suck at their job, we only get a little healthcare and rights under them” vs “lets take over the capital and kill everyone” is a pretty easy choice, if you dont have the memory of a goldfish.

            As for new methods of voting and who would put them in place, the voting rights act was effectively removed. Itll be a very different group of people you have no desire to vote for. If you wont vote against a fascist, you must be one. Otherwise you wouldnt sit at their table.

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      21 hours ago

      We did not try “not evil.”

      Centrists put forward a genocidal candidate without asking the voters.

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        20 hours ago

        Ahh you’re one of the reasons why more genocides are happening, now, caused by someone we definitely cant get to stop through protest. Remember, you voted for this.

        Great foresight.

        As for “not evil”, I want to know who has been “not evil” by your definition.

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          14 hours ago

          Remember, you voted for this.

          I should start keeping tally of how many times disagreeing with the genocidal leads them to believe that I voted how they don’t want.

          I voted for harris. You want me to shut up and love genocide and nothing else.

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            48 minutes ago

            I didnt say “love genocide”, now thats you assuming I want it, or to elicit something from me. Very strange attempt to blame-shift. We could have protested and made Harris change her position. She wasnt vocally for or against the horrific and ongoing genocide due to who funded her campaign. AIPAC is evil. Netanyahu is very easily described as evil. That isnt up for discussion.

            The reason it leads people to assume you didnt at least try to uphold democracy is how disgusted you seem to be about basic reality.