And yet you can’t recall, who voted for the Presidential Candidate in the Democratic Party Primaries…
You know I think you’ll find that all the people who participated in said primaries also can’t recall who they voted for when it came to the Presidential Candidate in said primaries…
“When I don’t get the result I want I call the election rigged.”
Democrats successfully argued in court that they do not have to run honest primaries. Democrats selectively protect centrist incumbents like Henry Cuellar but not progressive incumbents like Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman. Democrats sued as many candidates off as many ballots as they could in 2024. Democrats denied us a primary in 2024.
It’s a documented pattern of behavior. Stop gaslighting just because it results in genocidal shit candidates you like.
Guess we’ll just go with the felon rapist backed by a party of criminal traitors who are now destroying our economy, flagrantly violating the Constitution, and, oh yeah, executing American citizens in the street.
Seems like the smart thing to do when we’re upset at Dems for, checks notes, not being perfect.
Democrats successfully argued in court that they do not have to run honest primaries.
Actually, what they argued is that the court and outside groups have no legal standing to dictate how the Democrats select their candidates.
Why go through the lengthy trouble of proving a primary was fair, when you can just point out that there is no law that says they have to be. That’s the result of hiring a good lawyer.
Edit: The same is true for the republican party, the green party, and any other political party in the US.
They argued that it was their party and they could anoint whoever party leadership wanted (the phrase “smoke filled room” actually came up) without input from the voters, and you like the results so you’re making excuses.
I notice how you ignored the rest of my comment which establishes this as part of a larger pattern of behavior.
Edit: The same is true for the republican party,
I love how we can’t act like republicans under circumstances where doing so might help constituents, but when the party wants to put its thumb on the scale against progressives, everyone does it so it’s ok.
I didn’t actually like the result of the 2016 primary…
But I can also tell when one number is bigger than the other, and I know that rule number one is keep trump out of office and rule number two is vote for your best candidate in the primary, and the least worse candidate in the general.
I notice how you ignored the rest of my comment which establishes this as part of a larger pattern of behavior.
Gotta love you saying this, and then immediately taking part of my comment out of context to create a “gotcha” moment I’d expect to see on Fox News.
I didn’t actually like the result of the 2016 primary…
I’m sorry no one was running to the right of Clinton in the primary.
I know that rule number one is keep trump out of office
Rule 0 is keep progressives out of office, and it takes precedence over rule 1.
Gotta love you saying this, and then immediately taking part of my comment out of context
If you’re going to ignore most of my comment to pretend that democrats run honest primaries after an election cycle in which they denied the voters primaries entirely, don’t expect greater courtesy than you offer.
You’re being downvoted by the kind of people that are still crying about Bernie being cheated while being completely unaware that he lost the popular vote in both primaries. They’ve already created their own reality and don’t like it when people try to burst their bubble.
These are people who will throw a fit if a candidate doesn’t blow them even when the other option is a felon rapist backed by a party of criminal traitors.
They’re lost causes and they’re probably going to solidify a fascist party’s permanent control over our federal government.
The Democratic primaries in my state are held in a rural town that’s a 2 hour drive away which contains about 2 % of the state population, instead of 1 of the main cities. They’re also held during the week.
IN SPITE OF THE DNC TRYING TO TORPEDO HIM WITH ANDREW “SEX CRIMINAL” CUOMO.
When Democrats say “you should have voted in the primary” what they mean is they’re going to put their thumb on the scale to get their candidate nominated and expect you to vote for them even if they don’t have a single progressive position.
No one owes Democrats their vote. Democrats need to earn votes. You can do that, by, I don’t know, running a progressive candidate. Progressive policies are wildly popular and will win elections. Liberal Democrats won’t. Especially the ones constantly chasing those elusive centrist donors voters.
But apparently it’s normal for NYC mayors to travel overseas to kiss a shitty wall in a genocidal foreign country and deviating from that is some grave offense to America. It’s apparently normal for a senator to openly represent that same foreign country instead of his own (at least when he’s not advocating for his two invisible right-wing American constituents in his head. I guess that’s normal too).
But a senator endorsing the most important mayor position in the country? How strange and weird.
Being mayor of NYC is essentially being a governor at this point. Its population, production, and similar rivals if not surpasses many land locked states.
Your rhetoric elects republicans. You know this right? You’re either a republican or an accelerationist because these are the only results of your position. And you don’t get to wash your hands, you know full well how the system works. You’re effectively a Trump voter.
My rhetoric is primary incumbent Dems with progressives and drag the party left. It works. It in fact is the only actual way to reverse a fall into fascism without violence, and it’s even the only realistic way without violence to transition into a more socialist or communist form of government. But you people don’t vote, which makes you the same as a trump voter.
Essplain to me again how Democrats just let the primaries play out naturally. Like they didn’t torpedo Mamdani. Or change the rules and have “superdelegates” overrule the primary that would have elected Bernie over Hilary.
Essplain to me how Democrats are the party of the working people when Clinton signed NAFTA. And welfare reform. And Biden wrote his crime bill. And Obama’s signature act was HeritagecareRomneycare Obamacare. He sat on his hands for two years until the Democratic supermajority disappeared so Republicans could be the bad guys and say no to single-payer in favor of a health care plan literally written by insurance industry lobbyist and fellow Chicagoan Penny Pritzker. And threw regular people under the bus while bailing out banks.
Yes so I guess the choice is to what, abstain? Vote third party in a FPTP system that will not work? “Start the revolution” that everyone seems to tout but I open the news every single day and see nothing like that done?
Vote in the primaries.
Yeah, sorry I missed the primaries in 2024, which presidential candidate did you vote for in said primary?
i don’t recall, but i do recall that more candidates than the big 2 were running.
And yet you can’t recall, who voted for the Presidential Candidate in the Democratic Party Primaries…
You know I think you’ll find that all the people who participated in said primaries also can’t recall who they voted for when it came to the Presidential Candidate in said primaries…
Don’t blame the voters for the results of dishonest or nonexistent primaries.
“When I don’t get the result I want I call the election rigged.”
Who do you sound like?
Americans will point the blame at anyone other than themselves.
Democrats successfully argued in court that they do not have to run honest primaries. Democrats selectively protect centrist incumbents like Henry Cuellar but not progressive incumbents like Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman. Democrats sued as many candidates off as many ballots as they could in 2024. Democrats denied us a primary in 2024.
It’s a documented pattern of behavior. Stop gaslighting just because it results in genocidal shit candidates you like.
Welp.
Guess we’ll just go with the felon rapist backed by a party of criminal traitors who are now destroying our economy, flagrantly violating the Constitution, and, oh yeah, executing American citizens in the street.
Seems like the smart thing to do when we’re upset at Dems for, checks notes, not being perfect.
Gaslighting is abuse.
Actually, what they argued is that the court and outside groups have no legal standing to dictate how the Democrats select their candidates.
Why go through the lengthy trouble of proving a primary was fair, when you can just point out that there is no law that says they have to be. That’s the result of hiring a good lawyer.
Edit: The same is true for the republican party, the green party, and any other political party in the US.
They argued that it was their party and they could anoint whoever party leadership wanted (the phrase “smoke filled room” actually came up) without input from the voters, and you like the results so you’re making excuses.
I notice how you ignored the rest of my comment which establishes this as part of a larger pattern of behavior.
I love how we can’t act like republicans under circumstances where doing so might help constituents, but when the party wants to put its thumb on the scale against progressives, everyone does it so it’s ok.
I didn’t actually like the result of the 2016 primary… But I can also tell when one number is bigger than the other, and I know that rule number one is keep trump out of office and rule number two is vote for your best candidate in the primary, and the least worse candidate in the general.
Gotta love you saying this, and then immediately taking part of my comment out of context to create a “gotcha” moment I’d expect to see on Fox News.
I’m sorry no one was running to the right of Clinton in the primary.
Rule 0 is keep progressives out of office, and it takes precedence over rule 1.
If you’re going to ignore most of my comment to pretend that democrats run honest primaries after an election cycle in which they denied the voters primaries entirely, don’t expect greater courtesy than you offer.
You’re being downvoted by the kind of people that are still crying about Bernie being cheated while being completely unaware that he lost the popular vote in both primaries. They’ve already created their own reality and don’t like it when people try to burst their bubble.
These are people who will throw a fit if a candidate doesn’t blow them even when the other option is a felon rapist backed by a party of criminal traitors.
They’re lost causes and they’re probably going to solidify a fascist party’s permanent control over our federal government.
The Democratic primaries in my state are held in a rural town that’s a 2 hour drive away which contains about 2 % of the state population, instead of 1 of the main cities. They’re also held during the week.
Look at what happened to Mamdani.
He… won?
Yes.
IN SPITE OF THE DNC TRYING TO TORPEDO HIM WITH ANDREW “SEX CRIMINAL” CUOMO.
When Democrats say “you should have voted in the primary” what they mean is they’re going to put their thumb on the scale to get their candidate nominated and expect you to vote for them even if they don’t have a single progressive position.
No one owes Democrats their vote. Democrats need to earn votes. You can do that, by, I don’t know, running a progressive candidate. Progressive policies are wildly popular and will win elections. Liberal Democrats won’t. Especially the ones constantly chasing those elusive centrist
donorsvoters.https://nypost.com/2025/03/11/us-news/160-democrats-sign-letter-opposing-andrew-cuomo-as-nyc-mayor/
Oh but those aren’t “real” Democrats eh?
Fucking lying bullshit.
I mean, no, they’re DSA. Part of the wing establishment Dems have repeatedly say they hate more than republicans.
Speak of the devil, here’s a real democrat:
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/11/04/congress/schumer-ultimately-rejects-mamdani-endorsement-00636312
But yes, vote blue no matter who! 🤪
Is it normal for a senator to endorse a mayoral candidate? Because from what I’ve seen, it’s not.
It’s like saying that the governor didn’t endorse a local dog-catcher.
But apparently it’s normal for NYC mayors to travel overseas to kiss a shitty wall in a genocidal foreign country and deviating from that is some grave offense to America. It’s apparently normal for a senator to openly represent that same foreign country instead of his own (at least when he’s not advocating for his two invisible right-wing American constituents in his head. I guess that’s normal too).
But a senator endorsing the most important mayor position in the country? How strange and weird.
Is it normal for the head of a political party to endorse his own party’s candidate for mayor of arguably the most important city in the country? Yes.
Is it normal for the head of a political party to repeatedly evade answering who he supports in that mayoral race? No.
Being mayor of NYC is essentially being a governor at this point. Its population, production, and similar rivals if not surpasses many land locked states.
Your rhetoric elects republicans. You know this right? You’re either a republican or an accelerationist because these are the only results of your position. And you don’t get to wash your hands, you know full well how the system works. You’re effectively a Trump voter.
And your rhetoric ensures nothing ever changes. You’re worse than a Trump voter.
My rhetoric is primary incumbent Dems with progressives and drag the party left. It works. It in fact is the only actual way to reverse a fall into fascism without violence, and it’s even the only realistic way without violence to transition into a more socialist or communist form of government. But you people don’t vote, which makes you the same as a trump voter.
Well, I called that one.
Essplain to me again how Democrats just let the primaries play out naturally. Like they didn’t torpedo Mamdani. Or change the rules and have “superdelegates” overrule the primary that would have elected Bernie over Hilary.
Essplain to me how Democrats are the party of the working people when Clinton signed NAFTA. And welfare reform. And Biden wrote his crime bill. And Obama’s signature act was
HeritagecareRomneycareObamacare. He sat on his hands for two years until the Democratic supermajority disappeared so Republicans could be the bad guys and say no to single-payer in favor of a health care plan literally written by insurance industry lobbyist and fellow Chicagoan Penny Pritzker. And threw regular people under the bus while bailing out banks.Wake up.
Progressives don’t vote. Next question?
Givesomefucks even gave you the DNC chair endorsing mamdani but keep going off morons.
“Real” Democrats. Stupid dividing bullshit.
They’re laughing at you. They do nothing for you and you vote for them anyway.
That’s literally a metric politicians use among each other — how little can they do for their constituents and still get re-elected.
They mock fellow politicians who do anything for their constituents to get reelected.
I’m not joking.
Yes so I guess the choice is to what, abstain? Vote third party in a FPTP system that will not work? “Start the revolution” that everyone seems to tout but I open the news every single day and see nothing like that done?
Go ahead- tell me the answer. We’re all waiting.
DNC tried to sabotage him repeatedly.
Also, during his election campaign the Democrats voted on a Resolution:
“Denouncing the horrors of socialism” (H.Con.Res.58)
Ahead of Zohran Mamdani’s White House visit, 86 Democrats joined Republicans in voting for the resolution.