• Optional@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I see your account is a few months old, but trust us - the marxist-leninists (and Other) are very much in all these threads. It’s not a reach to go from “DNC sux” to “refuse to vote! Seize the means of production! Death to the bourgeoise!” It happens. Kind of a lot.

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      Okay, but to be fair, we should probably Guillotine the Epstein Class, and create employee owned businesses. Would probably benefit a lot of people.

      As for voting, we will always need to vote. All governments are a monopoly on violence, and voting is one of the ways to direct that violence. It’s mine, and no doubt many others, preferred way of directing that violence. In opposition to dictators, kings, and other unelected versions of governance directing said violence.

      So I do view those refusing to vote as naive at best, and dumber than a stump at worst.

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        Ok but your two realistic options for achieving those goals is either to pick up a gun and go do it yourself by force or to participate in our admittedly shitty system and put Democrats and specifically progressive Democrats where possible in power. So which ya gonna do?

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          Well considering people are being locked up in concentration camps, shot in the street in broad daylight, and the feckless opposition party constantly rolls over. Probably the gun, since I’ve already organized with my neighbors in case ICE shows up.

          Glad I could clear that up for you though.

          Edit: Oh and that’s a false dilemma since voting is also backed by guns, they’re just used by a third party so we can abstract away the inherent violence that allows a government to be a government.

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              lmao, I’m a reactionary. I react to the world as it is, not as I wish it was. If you’re going to try to label me, at least do it right. Especially since you do it to avoid actually putting up an argument, and to avoid your own cognitive dissonance.

              Guess you don’t have to think critically when all you look for is easy labels, and people to blame. Must be nice.

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                  You made no argument? There was no need for a “rebuttal”. You decided I was labeled, and said that you didn’t need anything else.

                  That’s not an argument, that’s a statement about your mindset, lol.

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      Actual leftists spend the day working or volunteering. Internet Marxist-Leninists spend 16 hours a day on social media. That’s why it looks like they’re so numerous.

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        Yes… where do you think you’re commenting right now?

        Tap for spoiler

        The Internet

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          What I meant by that is that most leftists don’t have time to show their messaging to others because they can’t spend too much time in the internet due to having lives. MLs in the internet are mostly unemployed dipshits who spend every hour of their day they’re not sleeping attacking people on social media or wanking themselves off to theory written 150 years ago - that’s why it looks like there’s a lot more of them when it’s the complete opposite. They’re a statistical anomaly.

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      It’s not a reach to go from “DNC sux” to “refuse to vote! Seize the means of production! Death to the bourgeoise!” It happens. Kind of a lot.

      In the fanfic written by people who don’t want the party to ever move to the left.