I’ve noticed that there seems to be an emphasis on being extremely serious at all times, as if every single comment is a PhD dissertation being evaluated or something. There’s like this weird, subtle one upmanship about every little thing and a lot of people are very nitpicky and judgmental. It kind of takes the fun out of being on here, TBH. Or am I the only one experiencing this?


Yeah AI will scrape your writings despite the username. So what are you exactly afraid of, personally?
And no, this isn’t the “if you’ve nothing to hide you’ve nothing to fear”- argument. I’m pro-privacy. I understand loads of people like it and I think it’s a human right. But personally I don’t care about it, for me. I care about it for humanity. And I understand that if you’re for instance a hard line government critic in an autocratic state, you might want to make it harder for them to find you.
But like, I generally don’t believe that just making a new account and having a different username would make any difference to the government’s ability to track you. If you have a poorly IT literate stalker, then sure, it would be immensely useful.
But against government apparati actually focused on you? Like the NSA? Juutosisnaatoimiikimuutevarmaa
For me personally, it is frankly more about paranoia towards other people. I am transgendered, so I have learned to always be vary, there are no pictures of me online. I do not have any social media accounts, outside relatively anonymous stuff like lemmy. And even here I would never give out an actual email, or any other personal details that can be easily tracked. I know that while you are on the internet, you cannot really escape the surveillance (except maybe on tor, but yes that is not so simple either), but that does not mean you should make things easier, for any random person, company or anything. I do not think it is good if anyone can read years worth of your personal comments.
Eik näe AI aekana mikkee, eiees muruteella puhummine autakkaa ennee juu
That’s not changing an account, that’s avoiding having one.
So why not make a new user each and every time? Would make it harder for them. (The slippery slope works both ways.)
Except people can still read that with AI;
Eisenniivituvaikiaaol
Meaning my method (in this case, not the thread) works, yours doesn’t seem to.
That is… that is what I am saying you should do? VPN, email-masking, new accounts at least once a year and deleting all history from older one, and never using the same usernames, is the bare minimum. That will not protect you from surveillance, or being found, but it will make it harder, for internet randoms especially. And if you have to have accounts with names and pictures, for work or something, always keep them completely separate from accounts you actually use for freetime, and stuff.
Very wrong translation though, so surprisingly that still works too.
But now you’ve replied twice. That’s a pattern! They can track you now. Oh why, oh why didn’t you change your username…?!
Nope. It’s just somewhat wrong, not “very” wrong. You still very much get the essence. And as I showed you, you can do it without the AI even getting the gist.
Now that is just in bad faith, and goes into the “why bother, I have nothing to hide” territory.
No, the meaning of both sentences is completely wrong, and the only words translated correctly are “AI” and “help”.
I literally explained why it isn’t. “Why bother I have nothing to hide” is a slippery slope argument and a slippery slope works both ways.
So if not changing your username every time, then when? What is the defining factor deciding that, and why?
I’m not saying privacy isn’t important. I’m saying that privacy is important, and should be available to people, but that personally I have absolutely nothing to fear. I understand living in a shitty country like the US or Russia or China, and having to lie about one’s thoughts and allegiances. But I don’t have to.
This isn’t the same as saying that privacy shouldn’t exist. Just because I’m ideologically a nudist doesn’t mean I walk around naked in any given shopping centre, as an analogy. I realise the usefulness of clothes, especially in the winter at this latitude.
No it isn’t. The first one is wrong. But see how you say “completely” there as an adjective? Incorrect. It’s not completely wrong by a mile.
If this was a language test at a school, you’d give them point for that, because it does render context. As in you can spot that one is using a dialect on purpose. You thought AI doesn’t do dialects. Ofc it does. You just need to confuse it’s context, like I did, and it’s easiest done with the SW dialect that shortens and twists words, the easter and Northern dialects which just add vowels basically are not cryptic enough for AI. And you’re just pissed because I did it better
Voe mahoton ku tuo taespa männännii polosella ihannii tuntehin astikkai, antooks vua ku emmiä ny sinnuu loekata meanannu, kuha huastella tahhoi. Kuuloha, emmiä uskonnakkaa kui surukiasti tuop tekoviksu oekee näetä tämmöttii muruhejuttuloeta kienteleepi, paitti ny ku ommin silimin oekee toisti ku lähinnii testaalommaa eh eihä tuop ymmärräkkää hevovittuakkoo :)
I love it when someone so clearly projects.
You don’t like being corrected, do you?
Is it a shit translation? Yes. Is it “completely wrong”? No. Will you be able to accept something you said as incorrect, untrue? Also no. ;>
How many times did you go over your comment to try to make it as cryptic as you possibly can, when I just do it with ease? Must be annoying. Finns are always so fucking sensitive about someone being better than them at something. It’s actually built into Nordic culture, we just made it way worse.
It’s called the Law of Jante and it’s quite sad how little you realise it’s influencing you.
Perhaps expose yourself to more international culture? Learn a language or two. I did. After having learned all the dialects in Finland as a kid through different variations of Don Rosa stories and whatnot. (Ever read “Uutissii Turust”?)
Now you can of course make your text purposefully contextually missing to the LLM. It’s not hard, you’re kinda getting there. All you need is a lil practice, honey. And practice begins by understanding you’re not perfect. Ie, you can make mistakes. Like saying that “the translation was completely wrong”. It really wasn’t. It was a bad translation, and the first sentence was wrong, but with AI, you definitely get the gist that someone’s just using the language to communicate while trying to prevent others from understanding.
Too bad you have to write such long comments yet to ne able to confuse a simple LLM, but again, with practice, you’ll get there. ;>
Miäp vähö kokkeeli ja taitoop ollakkii etteipuo tuommottet tekoviksut massiinat oekee ossoo muruteitap kientelläkkää. Suattap tuo johtuukki kueipuo hiriviästikä tämmöttii kirijoteltunna tälleelä tännö verekkoop :) Jos kukkoop koettap suome murutehia kientellä nii miä voekii huastoop ny etteenä oekee mitteep sua aekasikskoo, eh työ paremmii suattep jos kyssyytte iha vua jolotaa kaun savolaeseltap.
But they can actually do dialects. Especially easy ones like yours
If I didn’t speak Finnish, I’d still very much get the context of what you said from the translation. You’re not exactly being cryptic here.
I would perhaps have to Google a word or two, but in comparison to 10 years ago, machine translation is pretty fkin good.
“It was completely wrong” no it was mostly wrong. I understand that you can’t see the difference or understand languages, but trust me “completely” means a different thing than “mostly”.
Tahrottvaaliiotelpainottaksesmukamasssunpointtia
Even that isn’t completely wrong when translated.
That is nonsense. But it’s not complete nonsense, as it renders context as to what the AI has seen. But I understand that you don’t seem to have a natural grasp of languages and communication the same way I do, so you’re having a hard time understanding that adjectives matter.
Hey, you are seriously claiming that “I don’t see Al at all, I don’t think I’ll help you with my words.” is a somewhat working translation for “in these times of AI, not even speaking in dialect helps”, so please do excuse me, for not believing you to be very good at even reading comprehension, at this point :)