As a valid work visa holder in multiple countries, they already have my biometrics as they were a part of the visa process. Having the same data in my passport just speeds things up.
As long as I can enter/exit without showing more than my passport, I’m OK with it. My JD Vance memes stay locked the fuck down.
Am already in a few systems. I think when I have to start handing over unlocked devices I have issues.
My government already has my biometric data and im not shocked or upset that they do. I fully expect my government to keep a record of all its citizens.
When i travel i dont mind other countries verifying my identity and my preference is for it be digital and fast.
I dont expect my privacy to include hiding who i am from my own government and a foreign government when im traveling to their country thats absurd.
I fully expect my government to keep a record of all its citizens.
they don’t reasonably need biometric data to keep a record. they do need it, that’s not what I dispute, but not reasonably.
If you needed to do an automated check of a persons identity doesnt it make sense to do an id check + biometric check? Thats what happens at the traditional airport gates except its a person looking at your passport and looking at your face.
exactly, it does not need to be automated, and then less info is required.
Automation in these areas often increases the amount of collected information by a lot.
Have you ever traveled internationally? They know who you are. You are not anonymously entering another country through an international airport. Whether its going through an automated check in process or going through a manual one they know who you are and they have a record of what you look like, fingerprint, name, passport number credit card and probably other stuff im forgetting.
What are you actually preserving by avoiding having your face scanned? This is such a weird privacy take.
you are missing the point.
It’s fine that a border guard checks my passport and lets me to go my way. who cares. It’s reasonable, and I believe that it’s for our safety. but automated checks do more: they log the exact times you crossed the border, store it for decades. all the unnecessary data will most likely leak or be used for nefarious purposes at some point.
its like forced digital passes on public transport. when the driver checks your passes, no private info about my traveling/commuting habits is collected. but when passes need to be scanned, it is: gov id, time, location, stop number, line number. the public transport company really has no business in knowing when do I go to work, when do I head home, or when do I start using a different stop regularly, as it reveals so many other things about you, like whether you do anything in the city after work and how frequent is that.
I travel over the border much less, but my point stands.
What are you actually preserving by avoiding having your face scanned?
in addition to the above, by having fewer face scans uploaded to the system, I expect the surveillance cameras on the streets to do a worse job on facial recognition even when I’m just going about my day in my home country.
No im not missing the point you just arent understanding the process before digital and after.
The border guard doesnt just check you passport and move you along. They document your arrival and store it. They usually photocopy your passport and take a finger print. You have to register and provide a ton of info when traveling to another country it was never a private matter.
it never occurred to me that they have taken fingerprints when crossing borders to exit the EU
They are already everywhere. Quick, you need to go off grid ASAP, or at least offline just in case.
Use meshcore
Biometrics are already forced, unfortunately. No idea what “digital passports” are. What are they?
I just wish we got rid of passports altogether. Borders are dumb, IMO.
Borders are dumb, IMO.
How would you better define and manage the different zones of consolidated, shared resource management and ensure no fair-weather cheats skim benefits from each instead of committed to one and paying their part? No no, I’m curious.
