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  • Proxmox gives you a nice (and limited!) front end to manage containers and virtualization, but it also lets you do other cool stuff like resource pooling, credential management and too much to really get into.

    Really powerful enterprise and whole organization level management in that package.

    It’s not the only game in town, but it’s free and well documented and I recommended bare metal Debian as a stepping stone as opposed to alternative because proxmox runs on top of Debian so knowing that system is very nice.

    The overhead is real. On the other hand, all your little vms and containers are rarely doing something all at the same time so it doesn’t matter.


  • The downsides of not going straight to proxmox are all pretty much permutations of missing out on features or having to deal with a migration later on down the line when you do switch to it.

    Those features are almost universally stuff you might decide to not use or to use in a particular way, so it’s easy to say “pump your brakes and get your feet underneath yourself first” before handing you a tool that can be configured (with the help of Reddit, stackexchange and llms) in infinite wrong ways.

    Kind of like suggesting someone learn how to make a simple miter joint before handing them the universally loved and used cordless oscillating multi tool. The tool is really powerful, but the skills and foresight doing even just one miter joint will give you let you make better choices about how to use the oscillating multitool when you have it.

    Migration from bare metal to literally anything else is incredibly well documented and not a big deal.

    Often times for some of the stuff you said you’d be running there are guides for migrating that particular package from metal to containers, vms, or to proxmox itself.

    I want to make it clear that everything you learn from bare metal Debian would transfer over and compliment learning skills directly with the proxmox package because proxmox runs on top of Debian and Debian would likely be the os your vms or containers are made from.

    You don’t need to throw yourself in the deep end to learn how to swim.

    E: there is the extremely rare possibility that you will have some crash or security problem due to lack of containers/vms. I say extremely rare and I mean extremely rare. My personal server which was bare metal for twenty years just recently had its first one and it was actually related to a problem with containerization as opposed to lack of it. Your mileage may vary but for home users who don’t have public IPs and services getting pounded on 24/7 it wasn’t even something I thought about.




  • Eventually proxmox will be the right choice for you. Right now it’s not because you’re not skilled or knowledgeable enough to be able to navigate it.

    That is not a dig or a slight, it’s a very powerful and complex package built on top of an already powerful and complex package.

    Just do containerless normal person Debian then when everything’s running how you’d like and you’re ready you can migrate to proxmox.

    The big benefit of doing that instead of jumping into proxmox with both feet immediately is that you’ll be learning more and be able to solve your own problems as you get to the point of using proxmox.







  • Another poster said there’s lots of ways to get past doh/dot and they’re right. The goal is to run your ech packet safely to your dns server. To that end, make your vpn server connection first then ask for ech from your trusted doh/dot server.

    If you’re dealing with dpi you gotta fuck up your packets a bunch to get them through. It makes things slow.

    A good way to avoid dpi is to just not deal with it. Often dpi systems are at border crossing points so if you connect to your trusted vpn endpoint inside the borders of the place you’re trying to obfuscate from you can make it out to a dot or doh.






  • Okay so when everyone tells you to behave differently and you think it’s excessive what’s the reasonable thing to do?

    A normal person would decide to leave. Oh so im not allowed to park my lifted super duty across six spaces? Fine, guess I’ll take the beats pill to the Walmart parking lot one county over. Your loss, this country rap crossover playlist was about to get epic!

    A person who has some kind of perverse negative attention thing would stay. After all, there’s no rules posted in the park that say a grown man can’t sit on the bench wearing nothing but a diaper fastened with a comically large safety pin and bonnet licking an oversized rainbow swirl lollipop. You have every right to be there!

    Even if you take umbrage at having your abdl behavior posted about on the internet, you’ve spent more time and written more words defending your choice to post like a fucking adbot.

    If you valued your own time you would just be normal instead of doing what you’re doing!



  • It is not tribalism to expect you to behave differently than someone who gets paid per click.

    You are not the aggrieved party in this case, everyone who has to deal with your bullshit is.

    parks car sideways across six parking spaces

    “Oh, look at all this tribalism! Can’t these people tell I’m their ally?”

    Just act normal and when people tell you you’re fucking up, take steps to correct it.