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Signal DOES have my phone number but they can’t tell my government anything other than yes I use Signal yes I connected to it today

This is incorrect. They also have your full name and address by extension, as well as those of everyone you communicate with.

They’re also subject to national security letters, meaning the US state can get that info without a warrant.

Just read the first article I posted, it gets into all this.

The 2nd article is the signal CEO Meredith Whitaker interviewing with lawfare, which is a US defense industry think-tank.

The full picture is that Signal has the most important piece of information you can give anyone online: your phone number (which means your real name and current address). Also that they’re hosted in the US and have close links to the US defense industry.

People are not as stupid as these large centralized sites like signal keep telling you they are. Ppl figured out how to make accounts on different services, forums, and platforms since the internet began. It is no more difficult to make a matrix account, or install simpleX than it is anything else. My partner and I figured out simplex within 10 minutes.

none of this information ever leaves your client device, so

The phone number you gave to signal to sign up never left your device? Do you truly believe that?

When you send a message through signal, do you actually think “nothing” left your device?

These are all “trust me bro” claims.

Give me ssh access to their server so I can verify that this “sealed sender” is working correctly and not using the info you already gave them. We would demand this transparency of open source messengers, so why not signal?

when it doesn’t know who sent any message

They have your phone number. You gave it to them when you signed up.

which group chats you’re in

Signal wouldn’t know how to route messages if it didn’t store this info.

Signal stores, and has access to, no message metadata.

Phone numbers are the most important metadata you can give them, far more important than message content. It means your real identity / name and address. With phone numbers you can build social networking graphs: who talked to who, and when.

To be convinced of this, take a look at the client source code, and compile the app yourself.

Client source code is irrelevant here. Signal is a centralized service, you can’t verify what their US-based server is actually running (although they did go a full year without publishing any server updates at one point, until they received a lot of backlash for it).

None of this information ever leaves your phone without being encrypted or otherwise masked.

You gave them your phone number / real identity when you signed up. The most important piece of info they could possibly give them, you already did.

PRODUCT PITCH: Hey everyone, I have a great idea for a secure / private messaging service.

It’s hosted in the US, subject to its pervasive spying laws including national security letters.

Also I need all your phone numbers.

Also no you can’t host this yourself, I run the only server.

Everyone who uses signal and supports it, is falling for this pitch.

Why not signal?

Signal clients implement the Pond protocol. As a result, Signals servers know who a message is for (obviously, how else do you get the message) but cannot know who it is FROM.

Give me ssh access to signal’s centralized US-hosted server so I can verify this (IE that their centralized DB doesn’t store).

Otherwise this is a “trust me bro” claim, considering they have the phone numbers of everyone who signed up, and are the routing service for the messages you send.

Yes, specifically NATO operations, not necessarily ones that NATO members took part in.

A civilian means a non-combatant.

Rule 1… do they think it’s racist to be against NATO now lol. Probably including “anti-white” in their definition of bigotry.

Nice, the top link is a good list, although it feels like there are a lot of interventions are missing.

I’ve also heard the estimates for total casualties of the US/NATO war on Iraq to be ~1M people, but that could be including other deaths related from the infrastructure collapse caused by the war.

Almost entirely overlapping, especially since many of NATO’s ops are in Africa, when it’s focus is supposed to be limited to Europe.

Incredible things are happening with termux.

No probs. Why not, do they have you blocked, or did piefed code in a Cowbee filter 🤣

This is the right answer. The PRC doesn’t let US surveillance giants operate within their country like most other countries naively do.

NoWayKnowHow - The firewall is good actually

You can curate your own feed: use the block button for any communities you don’t want to see.

As for why there’s a lot of politics on lemmy: The west’s leading country just threatened to annihalate an entire civilization yesterday. Kind of a lot going on right now.

As @[email protected] mentioned, PSL (and a few other socialist parties), are the only real opposition, since they’re a working-class party that’s consistently anti-war and anti-capitalism.

From crash course socialism:

Socialists view democracy under capitalism to be impossible. Most current-day systems are better labeled as Bourgeois Democracy, or democracy for the rich only, which socialists contrast with proletarian democracy. Under capitalism, political parties, representatives, infrastructure, and the media are controlled by capitalists, who place restrictions on the choices given to workers, limit their representative options to vetted capitalist puppets, and limit the scope of public debate to pro-capitalist views.

Bourgeois democracies are in reality Capitalist Dictatorships, resulting in legislation favorable to the wealthy, regardless of the population’s actual preferences. The Princeton Study, conducted in the US in 2014, found that the preferences of the average US citizen exert a near-zero influence on legislation, making the US system of elections and campaigning little more than political theater. Multi-party, Parliamentary / representative democracy has proven to be the safest shell for capitalist rule, regardless of voting methods or differing political structures, for countries as diverse as Australia, Japan, Sweden, the UK, the US, South Korea, or Brazil.

Ancient Greek philosophers like Plato and Aristotle more accurately defined Democracy as rule by the poor, and they considered states based on elections to be anti-democratic Aristocracies, since only the wealthy and ruling families have the resources to finance elections. They contrasted this with random selection / sortition, and citizen’s assemblies, as being the defining features of democracy, both of which are nonexistent in the countries listed above. Today, liberal / parliamentary “democracies” are dominated by wealthy candidates, and entrenched political families, with Capitalists standing above political power.

This system of sham elections acts as a distracting theater piece, giving the illusion of democracy, whilst in reality it serves to platform capitalist views, make them appear more popular than they are, and manufacture consent for the system itself.

Examples of restrictions include a media and news monopoly, 2, gerrymandering, long term limits with no way to recall unpopular representatives, restrictions crafted to disenfranchise poor and minority voters, bills directly crafted by lobbyists and bourgeois lawmakers, voter suppression, electoral fraud, unverifiable closed source electronic voting systems, capitalist campaign financing, low voter to representative ratios, inconvenient voting locations and times, and most importantantly, candidate stacking. Most elections are performed before we ever get to the polling booth. In short, political democracy can’t exist without economic democracy, and true democracy is only possible when workers control production.

The impossibility of Capitalist democracy to make a transition to working-class democracy is best shown by the phrase: Capitalists will not allow you to vote away their wealth. Pacifism, and elections have never been an effective means of disenfranchising the ruling class.

Communists propose building alternatives alongside of bourgeois democracy, with the goal of to replacing it with Proletarian democracy. Measures might include:

• Replacement of bourgeois parliamentary bodies with broadly inclusive workers organizations, such as unions, councils, or syndicates.
• Seizing land, productive facilities, and housing and putting them under democratic control.
• Elimination of all debts, suppression of all private banks and stock markets.
• Direct democracy in as many decisions as possible, often called cyber communism.
• A democratically planned economy for human needs, with open participation.
• Low-level workplace democracy.
• Elimination of the standing army, and the substitution for it of armed workers.
• An emphasis on universal education, health-care, child-care, care for the elderly, and human welfare, paid for socially.
• Increase in productive technology.
• Low levels of wealth and income inequality, often driven by a system of labor vouchers for compensation.
• Experts (if any) elected by the working class through universal suffrage.
• All representatives and officials (including police) are revocable at any time.
• Public officials are paid worker’s wages.

If phones did this, especially to custom-tailor ads, like I’ve seen claimed countless times, then security researchers would be perfectly capable of uncovering this behavior without someone on the inside.

When you make calls via these services, the entirety of that data is being routed through their service. What you’re asking is if google/apple actually stores that data. You should always assume they do, for a threat analysis.

I suggest reading about the Crypto AG honeypot scandal, which was a secure service that ran for over 60 years before it was revealed to be an CIA honeypot. Leaks in the future will likely reveal the same for US surveillance capital services.