Pretty much this, but let me expand, as someone who got into it a few years ago, went all in for a while, realized the dysfunction you’re talking about was pretty serious and bad, and completely moved on from it, with the possibility of embracing Guix somewhere down the line…

What made me try it out: I listen to several podcasts about FOSS (hack ptui fuck Open Source), and one of them uses (used?) NixOS on their production streaming server, their OBS Studio machine. On that sort of device, you very often will get a stable configuration and then avoid upgrades and updates for as long as you can.

The nature of NixOS, though, means that you can mess around on that sucker all you want, completely wreck the bastard, and to get it back all you do is select the last-known-working build from the list you are offered at bootup. That is objectively incredible for any working studio, an industry sector I coincidentally have worked in myself. This level of creative flexibility means I hope this situation resolves for the better, perhaps with all the good people working under a new, hard-forked name. I have an old team of Technical Directors that, if I’m ever in Toronto and hanging out with them, this will be a huge topic of discussion, cause it would’ve solved so many of the challenges we faced when working together.

So basically I went all in, and it was not altogether easy to get my head around all the concepts - I never really did sort out using Flakes - but the aforementioned functionality seemed worth almost anything.

Where I said “holy shit this ain’t gonna work” and predicted today: when I learned, after several months, that when I went googling for the Wiki, I was randomly clicking on one of two sites - either (good) wiki.nixos.org, which was the up-to-date Wiki that observed some form of Code of Conduct and basically was trying to be a mainstream project, and (omg bad) umm nixos.wiki I think? Anyways, that’s the original Wiki, created during a time when the project was apparently a-okay with nazi contributors and maybe leaders, and features entries like “The NixOS Woke Invasion” as relevant topics of discussion.

So basically the new Wiki was formed because the nazi-friendly admin of the original refused to do the CoC thing, and basically had control of the domain name and site, and has refused to take any of it down, which as I said is how I spend literally months getting good, up to date info from the real wiki, and stale shitty nazi info from the other, though I never noticed the woke invasion page and shit until I discovered this. It’s an act of overt nazi sabotage, and basically the project has not been able to have it taken down, it wasted days of my time (sure, I should have read better, but again, I had no idea there was a second doppleganger set of nazi docs and couldn’t conceive of such a thing being a thing…)

Basically it was a straight line from that realization to my ending up with Debian or FreeBSD back on all my machines. I’ll take their minor irritants over wasting weeks of my life because nazis gonna nazi. If a hard forked project emerges from this that maintains the non-nazi stance, I might bring it back into my toolset.

The thin ray of hope: I have long thought about learning LISP and Emacs, and as it happens, there is an alternate project called Guix, which implements the NixOS feature set, but instead of using the Nix project’s bespoke declarative language, uses LISP instead. I say thin ray of hope, because if NixOS had a serious advantage that made it “use NixOS or don’t bother at all,” it was the fact that nixpkgs (the subject of today’s events) basically had feature parity with Arch and Debian SID, the other rolling releases of note, but obviously enjoyed more stability and flexibility than either, once you got your head wrapped about their way of doing things.

Guix does not have that same churn by any stretch, but, would still offer all the wonderful features of NixOS if you are willing to do the work of setting up any packages yourself, that do not already exist, and that is not at all removed from my to do list. The technology is fundamentally great fuckin’ stuff. And it’s worth noting that (up till today, anyways…) you could take advantage of nixpkgs by adding nix (not NixOS, just Nix) as a supplemental package manager on Debian and other distros.

All in all, today is zero surprise, and offers hope for a genuine rebuild in a more stable and useful way, that could then be adopted by business and others as a reliable and very, very useful way of doing custom builds for extremely fiddly tasks, with insane levels of reproducibility and the freedom to constantly improve.

Access to the porn that appears on the internet has nothing whatsoever to do with normal sexual development. Kids don’t need to know about anal prolapse videos.

Have to say, when I’m strictly looking for hard info, like, what are the command line switches to achieve the right config for a thing, the AI is pretty much always right. It’s not without use, but Doing Things For You is not its best use.

If you’re running a site that anyone from the public can sign up to, resources are not some afterthought you add to your argument like pepper. Resources are everything. I have been on this Internet since NCSA Mosaic; look up the term “hugged to death”.

NYPA

Sometime in the last two years, the number of people consider themselves to be programmers has at least doubled. We have a giant contingent of people who have never gone through the hell of actually developing a skill but are now “developers” in much the same way that typing “make me a song like ______” now makes you a musician. No theory, no chords, no building of callouses, just load up our AutoPlagio and dance the night away!

And these sudden Developers and such are all very upset at having their legitimacy questioned by a bunch of… of… NERDS.

Response guy seems to think that “legitimate crypto” is a thing.

My SSH keys are legitimate crypto. Fake money for criminals is not legitimate.

It would be accurate to say that the Internet reached a critical mass of user in 1995. I was here in 1992, and 95 is when media started talking about the internet as a necessary thing for businesses etc to get onboard with, and by extension, when loads on servers started to get wild. A communal pool of servers for the web community to lean on during times of extreme demand is still an excellent idea that can solve a lot of problems, but not if we let capitalists run it for profit. Never work.

If it’s punk yer wantin, you’ll want Dead Kennedys and MDC - both old bands (MDC is still kicking as I understand it, tho) but lots and lots of highly relevant stuff.

Notable: on their first LP, Millions Of Dead Cops, which came out in 1984 if I recall correctly, there is a trans-positive tune called America’s So Straight. You wanna talk ahead of the curve…

This is the guy who wrote “867-5309” and “Perfect World” by Huey Lewis. He’s also a friend of sorts, I got my dog from him and his wife. It’s not famous but it’s a decent tune, and anti-ICE as shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evwhdPn8ONk