Honda is doubling down on small electric two-wheelers with the launch of a new budget-friendly model that undercuts its own…

  • litchralee@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    In California, the largest motorcycle market in the USA, this would be regulated as a moped (CVC Section 406), since it is electric, has a motor less than 3 kW (4 HP in old money), and a top speed of less than 30 MPH (48 kph).

    Riders wouldn’t need an M1 motorcycle license, but instead an M2 moped license would suffice. An M1 license allows riding anything that needs an M2 license, such as this moped. The process for an M2 is classroom instruction, and then a brief practical exam. There is no annual registration for mopeds, but there is a one-time plate fee, to obtain a plate from the DMV. There is no insurance requirement for mopeds.

    A moped can be ridden in either traffic lanes and bike lanes (but not shoulders, which only bicycles are permitted to use). Whereas bicycles are obligated to use a bike lane when present (with a few obvious exceptions), a moped is not forced to use a bike lane. When riding in a traffic lane, a moped must keep to the right-most lane if slower than all other traffic.

    IANAL, but all of this can be verified in the CVC. The result is that mopeds (a vestige of the 1970s oil crisis) could absolutely make a comeback if priced correctly, since ebikes already provide similar mobility.

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      3 months ago

      Fun fact, the M2 licence in California (at least when I took it) uses the same low speed precision turning course that motorcycles do, which is, ironically, even harder to navigate on an automatic transmission moped. I only managed it through a gas and brake, gas and brake, jerky start and stop to keep my speed down enough to make the tight turns.

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      3 months ago

      yeah, my motor is 750W (right under 1HP), top speed 28. it has a throttle so it’s class 2 electric, no license needed.

      i really want to figure out how to change the max speed on the throttle to something lower so i can get better mileage and maybe go someplace a little further, but i’m not entirely sure how the math maths on that one (friction and air resistance y’know) and not have to buy an extra battery, but we’ll see

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        3 months ago

        Why not just go easier on the throttle? Or drop it to a lower level you program to 12mph at the lowest or second lowest?

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          3 months ago

          because i don’t want to have to pay that close attention to “am i going 12 mph” the whole damn way and the “cruise control” functions are a joke, just turning those on drains half the battery

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            3 months ago

            Seems odd that CC itself would use much extra power: What’s your ride? My EP2 has CC and I have not noticed any impact on battery using it vs not using it. In fact, keeping CC at a lowish speed seems to prolong the battery life a bit on mine, even with no pedaling assuming all other things equal.