This morning while checking if Quokk.au’s new instance logo was federated out, I discovered that overnight we had been shadowbanned from the PieFed.Social Instance Chooser (This is a tool to help spread out users across the platform and help avoid funnelling users into the largest.)

Knowing that Rimu was happy to explain, I just asked for some clarification as we were visible on every other PieFed instance except his.

Apparently for ’ obvious reasons ', of which I can only assume is our left leaning anarchist/pro-trans stance we were chosen not be advertised on the PieFed flagship instance and first point of contact for many potential new users. Seeing as a large portion of our new users found us via this method, it will have a tangible effect on a small instance such as ours.

This was a pretty sad sight to see, and reflects the sort of petty drama that is emanating from the PieFed project lately. It’s now the third such move to discredit and harm left leaning instances by PieFed’s lead developer. This also shows a trend towards autocratic unilateral decision-making on Piefed.social, of which is starting to be run as a personal fiefdom without consulting the team or users.

I must commend Lemmy.ml for remaining neutral and not letting its own political leanings influence join-lemmy.org, while simultaneously condemn PieFed.social for this immature move that is harmful to the health of the Fediverse.


Following this exchange, Rimu announced a new update to PieFed allowing for some rather concerning things.

  • Modlog: Reason for the action is only shown from trusted instances, so abusive mods won’t have an audience. Admins can still see the reason though. Which instances are trusted is set in the admin UI.

This feature means problematic users can now go undetected, and will harm moderators ability to view their past moderation history. For example PieFed.social runs a ‘trusted’ list of only 34 instances, meaning any mod action taken by any of the hundreds of instances outside of this will not show up. So for example if Quokk.au was to ban a user for transphobia (our most common ban), this will not be reflected for piefed.social users potentially leading towards more hate speech on the Fediverse.

  • Instance silencing similar to Mastodon. A silenced instance is not defederated from but their posts do not show in the Popular or All feeds and their communities are not shown in Starter packs aka Topics. Their communities can still be found in the communities list and joined in the normal way. Once joined, posts in there show up in the subscribed feed as usual.

This is another way to shadowban instances and not ‘advertise’ them. Surely if an instance is problematic enough that a defederation would be in order rather than this reddit-like move.

  • InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works
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    SJW doesn’t ban email domains, IPs nor VPNs.

    To my knowledge, we’ve alsp never shared specific details about users with dotworld or other instances for that matter.
    I myself would take offense about leaking any of this info.

    The only thing I can even think of is we might have shared something like this once or twice during bigger spam attacks:

    this last wave of spammer were all made in the last hour and fit the following pattern “5 letters, 5 numbers @ sketchy domain dot com” without sharing actual user info.

    Edit:
    I don’t know about dotworld, but at least on our end, there’s only TheDude and me who even have access to see a user’s email address.
    The only other times we’ve really even checked one was before 2FA & password reset worked properly.

    We even have users who didn’t want to provide an email at all which we’ve verified manually through matrix.

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            Realistically, not really.
            To be honest, these days, most bans are for obvious spam, *phobes or the occasional CSAM.

            Just don’t post dentist adspam (which is oddly common) or be that one person who posts their cartoony-kiddie-diaper-fetish thing.

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              9 hours ago

              I usually get banned for calling for the death of Donald Trump, and the rest of the global billionaires.

              AdVoCaTiNg vIoLeNcE and other lame excuses.