When shopping, I like to make it seem extremely likely I am stealing to help poor people who actually need to steal to survive.
For example, when picking up a soda, I furtively look to my left and right to make sure no one is looking and crouch my head down. I pick up things and make it seem like I may be putting it in a pocket at times before putting it back. When security guards say hi, I don’t make eye contact or reply back and put my head down as if hiding.
I never actually steal and haven’t ever shoplifted anything.
I have been kicked out stores many times for abnormal behavior, but never while stealing.
My kids accidentally stopped a shoplifter. We stopped at a Walmart on a road trip to use the bathroom. As we were leaving, for some reason all three of them decided to tie their shoes in the vestibule, blocking most of the doorway. There was a very agitated lady behind them, and I tried to move my kids given that I was aware how obnoxious a place they had chosen for shoe tying — I assumed she just wanted to leave the store. But as she tried to get around them, she dropped a pile of phone charging cables and cases and was caught by a security guard chasing her
The distinction you’re trying to make is stealing luxuries vs stealing necessities. Sure, we could argue basically “fuck megacorps” and that’s debatable to steal whatever, but this is about us.
If someone’s stealing the basic necessities like food, nobody saw shit.
If you’re stealing a TV, that just makes you a thief.
Look, I don’t get this need to cite exceptions to make oneself right. I can’t engage in pedantry or add endless footnotes to a general concept of what constitutes thievery or what every individual’s plan is for whatever they steal. It’s ridiculous to waste that time. You can steal a steak and sell it. You can steal a TV and watch it.
The spirit of the discussion is the direct intent of theft is either for an immediate need of a basic necessity of food, or the non-necessity of a luxury like a tv. Leave it at that concept.
They’ll likely steal in bulk if that’s the case. If they do it over time, snitching on everyone hurts the people who are stealing for necessity. Be the good for people. Kindly, compassionately, and in a non-derogatory way let them know where they can get food, essentials, and services for free from a resource center. Don’t take their dignity.
Imagine if like 5% or so of people in a Grocery store acted like he does. Would be so much easier to actually steal something with security being busy all the time with the non-stealers
i’v never seen security care about theft outside of the egregious electronics and stuff like that, those guys don’t get paid enough to care about slippage
Do you live in an area with poor people and lots of shoplifting? Do you work in grocery store security surveillance? Do you work as a 711 clerk? Is this an area of expertise or are you just guessing?
chicago, plenty of places have guards but it’s all for showt/insurance (presumably).
nearly all security you can see is performative, to make normies feel safe
When shopping, I like to make it seem extremely likely I am stealing to help poor people who actually need to steal to survive.
For example, when picking up a soda, I furtively look to my left and right to make sure no one is looking and crouch my head down. I pick up things and make it seem like I may be putting it in a pocket at times before putting it back. When security guards say hi, I don’t make eye contact or reply back and put my head down as if hiding.
I never actually steal and haven’t ever shoplifted anything.
I have been kicked out stores many times for abnormal behavior, but never while stealing.
…how does that help anyone at all?
If you ever see someone stealing food.
No you didn’t.
I’ve seen shoplifters stealing granola bars or chips before. Not said a word.
Stealing electronics? Fuck that person.
My kids accidentally stopped a shoplifter. We stopped at a Walmart on a road trip to use the bathroom. As we were leaving, for some reason all three of them decided to tie their shoes in the vestibule, blocking most of the doorway. There was a very agitated lady behind them, and I tried to move my kids given that I was aware how obnoxious a place they had chosen for shoe tying — I assumed she just wanted to leave the store. But as she tried to get around them, she dropped a pile of phone charging cables and cases and was caught by a security guard chasing her
The distinction you’re trying to make is stealing luxuries vs stealing necessities. Sure, we could argue basically “fuck megacorps” and that’s debatable to steal whatever, but this is about us.
If someone’s stealing the basic necessities like food, nobody saw shit.
If you’re stealing a TV, that just makes you a thief.
I can steal and sell TV and not be stealing food for the next two weeks or so. While stealing food is everyday effort
Look, I don’t get this need to cite exceptions to make oneself right. I can’t engage in pedantry or add endless footnotes to a general concept of what constitutes thievery or what every individual’s plan is for whatever they steal. It’s ridiculous to waste that time. You can steal a steak and sell it. You can steal a TV and watch it.
The spirit of the discussion is the direct intent of theft is either for an immediate need of a basic necessity of food, or the non-necessity of a luxury like a tv. Leave it at that concept.
There’s also people stealing (even reselling) necessities like toothpaste, deodorant and laundry detergent.
They’ll likely steal in bulk if that’s the case. If they do it over time, snitching on everyone hurts the people who are stealing for necessity. Be the good for people. Kindly, compassionately, and in a non-derogatory way let them know where they can get food, essentials, and services for free from a resource center. Don’t take their dignity.
It increases the noise to signal ratio in their attempts to look for food thieves.
Imagine if like 5% or so of people in a Grocery store acted like he does. Would be so much easier to actually steal something with security being busy all the time with the non-stealers
i’v never seen security care about theft outside of the egregious electronics and stuff like that, those guys don’t get paid enough to care about slippage
Do you live in an area with poor people and lots of shoplifting? Do you work in grocery store security surveillance? Do you work as a 711 clerk? Is this an area of expertise or are you just guessing?
chicago, plenty of places have guards but it’s all for showt/insurance (presumably). nearly all security you can see is performative, to make normies feel safe
Lol, I used to do this as a kid. Didn’t steal anything, but I deliberately acted shady just to see what would happen. Nothing ever did.
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