• cashsky@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    Why not both? Are you saying DNC is incapable of being critizsed for interfering in local elections where progressive candidates are overwhelmingly popular so they can shoehorn in their AIPAC stooges?

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      Are you saying DNC is incapable of being critizsed for interfering in local elections where progressive candidates are overwhelmingly popular so they can shoehorn in their AIPAC stooges?

      Yes and yes

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      3 days ago

      The criticism is too general to be useful in identifying issues.

      Every decent progressive is/was a dem. Republicans are literally 100000x worse and everyone who says they’re the same is saying Jimmy Carter and Obama are exactly like Trump.

      Which is genuinely stupid people thinking.

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        Most other countries have managed to not have full fascist and low fat fascists as candidates for decades. Either Americans just want fascist or they’re major idiots who can’t run a country.

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          What countries are you talking about?

          Canada, the UK, Germany, France and Italy all have their variety of fascism that grows and wanes and never really leaves sometimes assuming massive power. South America is rife with fascists who don’t even need to operate in the government to run it. Africa and SEA are rife with foreign imperial influence to ruin their elections and control them. The middle east, India, America, Russia, China are all without a doubt expressing some form of insane nationalism, racism, classism and usually tied to that all fascism.

          The EU and NATO struggle to operate with these fascist supporting fucks tied up into it.

          So who the hell are you talking about? Probably a country with small GDP who just succumbs to the EU or NATO or whatever alliance their in and doesn’t seem fascist because they get to sit right under a more fascist wannabe empire.

          The fact is the rich in the world have enough to control the economy and with it the political system. Nobody is safe dunno what planet you live on.

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            The good old AMERIKKKAN coming in with the classic “we are just too large and numerous not to be imperialist fascists.” USA is the richest country in the world, US people have just decided to make it how it is. USA could be a great country, the greatest, but Americans vehemently refuse to make it even a good one.

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              I’m literally in this thread arguing for more cohesive voting so we can do literally that.

              The problem IS there being too many people vs representation. They defund schools, highest prison population on the planet and a known history of drug trafficking and utilizing that to make money, arrest people and weaken society further.

              I also didn’t say any of that at all in any way shape or form.

              This meme doesn’t contribute to any of those issues. It outright attacks them. The one section of government that functions is the one you’re going to mock? Fucking silly. Absolutely foolish. Completely dumb. You’re attacking the last front still standing you dope.

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                I’m literally in this thread arguing for more cohesive voting so we can do literally that.

                The last election showed that “vote blue no matter who” means “we expect you to vote for genocide and we will do nothing for you.” Scream at me all you want, but that’s the message the party’s behavior sends.

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                  You’re gonna fall for every propaganda campaign that comes your way.

                  You act like a realist but you’re a pearl clutching loon. It’s not a question of party loyalty it’s voting unity to undo this fascism but yeah continue to engage with the degrading of the machine I’m sure it’s working great for you

                  How’s the stacked court, the gerrymandering and blatant abuse of allies along with raising gas prices, a falling economy, and the president literally just pilfering tax money all he wants.

                  But at least we didn’t vote blue no matter who right? We saved Gaza and Ukraine by listening to the Republican propaganda on why you should be a single issue voter and not trust Democrats.

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                    And once again I get to explain to a centrist that I voted for harris for exactly the reasons that centrists say people should have voted for harris.

                    The party regards voters it needs with open contempt. Fuck’s sake dude, the party treats republicans who will never vote for them better than it treats the left.

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        3 days ago

        That’s assuming current DNC actually WANTS to work towards progressive policies. They have always been Right-lite and when they are in power they are too comfortable and know they can dismiss up and coming progressive easier. NOW is the perfect time to criticize them harder because they are weaker and faltering at the sight of progressives being more popular than them. They are busy fighting the left when they should be fighting the fascists. The DNC is interfering in local primaries to disrupt populist progressive politicians. That’s fucking bullshit I say. They keep saying make your voice heard in the primaries while they rat-fuck every progressive in the primaries. Get the fuck out of here.