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    4 days ago

    The people shouting the loudest about Gaza historically don’t fucking vote, ever. So why would anyone assume catering to them would amount to anything when they already don’t vote? It’s not complicated and her position on Palestine likely didn’t have significant effect on the outcome because anyone that actually votes knew well the republicans would embolden netanyahu. And good that you voted for Harris, now please stop trying to convince people not to vote because that gets republicans elected and republicans are worse because they’re unified and they’re all as bad as the worst Dems. It’s not fucking complicated. Like this is literally the only option that isn’t full on violent revolution, societal collapse, or the christofascist technofeudalist dystopia the republicans are ushering in.

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      The people shouting the loudest about Gaza historically don’t fucking vote, ever.

      I shout pretty loud about the genocide wing’s greatest accomplishment, and I vote.

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          Do the republicans your wing of the party keeps pursuing vote for you? Because it seems to me like “you never vote for us” never caused centrists to ignore them.

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            I don’t understand why you refuse to understand that if progressives voted for progressive candidates in democratic primaries in enough numbers then we would have progressive democratic candidates.

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              People don’t want to register to vote in primaries while there are ICE thugs with guns watching, and registration in primaries isn’t (successfully) protected information.

              The DNC could waive the registration requirement and get progressive voters to turn out for primaries.

              But we both know not to expect the DNC to do that.

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                So we’re back to progressives don’t vote and you’re wondering what the fuckin deal is? Progressives don’t vote. That’s the deal. If they did we’d have a progressive party, but instead we get republican water carriers spouting your rhetoric.

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                If progressives voted progressively we’d have a progressive party. We don’t, therefore progressives don’t vote.

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                  “If you just voted in the primaries we didn’t have because we don’t want to listen to you, we would listen to you!”

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                    And we’re going in circles. There weren’t any cancelled primaries and you’re just proving Americans deserve what we’re getting. You’re clearly asking for more.