• GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Not equal, but working towards the same goals, serving same billionaire overlord agendas, just in different methods and color

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      The ratchet is awful, but in this moment it’s still the lesser of 2 evils.

      These “both sides” arguments are like saying you refuse to walk across a shitty floor because you want to keep your shoes clean when the alternative is being fully immersed in sewage with your mouth open.

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        Meanwhile you’re still refusing to fix the pipes because the floor is clean.

        You guys did this shit with Biden. And here we are.

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          2 days ago

          We have literal, actual fascism here. Let’s not let perfect be the enemy of “Not a Nazi”

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            Again, it’s not like this wasn’t tried. You did “not a Nazi” in 2020. And it led you here.

            VBNMW has been failing since it was coined in 2004. And yet people still act like they’re somehow wise in insisting on it.

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              And in 2020, we didn’t elect a fucking Nazi and things were better than before and way better than now. Was the world magically made perfect? No. But it was better.

              And when the current batch is kicked out, things will still be bad. It will take decades to fix what’s been broken. And that sucks. But just because the repairs are going to be slow, painful, and inefficient doesn’t mean we should just let the wrecking ball keep swinging.

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                And when the current batch is kicked out, things will still be bad. It will take decades to fix what’s been broken. And that sucks. But just because the repairs are going to be slow, painful, and inefficient doesn’t mean we should just let the wrecking ball keep swinging.

                It does mean that democrats have to actually attempt repairs and stop pulling the football away like they did with all the promises Biden made to get elected but never actually intended to keep.

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                  Biden didn’t stop Israel. That was bad.

                  But otherwise, he did well. The economy recovered, he pulled out of Afghanistan and started no new wars. He tried to forgive student loans but the GOP stopped him.

                  One thing to understand is that the Dems haven’t had fillibuster-proof control of the government in DECADES except for about 2 months in 2009. Al Franken wasn’t seated until Ted Kennedy had left for the medical leave prior to his death, and the Tea Party took Kennedy’s seat, halting all progress.

                  When the Dems have nominal control, the GOP is so obstructionist Mitch McConnel fillibustered his own bill when the Dems agreed to go along with it.

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                    Biden didn’t stop Israel. That was bad.

                    Biden actively aided Israel.

                    But otherwise, he did well.

                    But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

                    One thing to understand is that the Dems haven’t had fillibuster-proof control of the gov

                    They didn’t need a filibuster-proof majority to keep playing arms dealer for a genocide. Just for stuff they didn’t want to do, like the things they promised when they were trying to get elected.

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            1 day ago

            Stop acting like anyone who wants better than “second worst genocide supporter” wants perfection.

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      You could also pay attention to democrats consistently fixing the economy that republicans leave us with, but pretending theyre the same is totally true. Rocks and turtles are both hard and definitely alive, they must be the same.

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        A) This person is very clearly not saying they are the same, and even provided you a visual guide explaining the difference.

        B) “Fixing the economy,” always means stabilizing the stock market and lowering the deficit, but never improving the material conditions of the working class. Obama stabilized the stock market by bailing out the banks who created the financial crisis, not the homeowners facing foreclosure. Biden curbed inflation with supply-side measures instead of price control. Even Clinton responded to the H.W. Bush recession by gutting welfare and deregulating Wall Street (hell, repealing Glass-Steagall is one of the main reasons we got the financial crisis in the first place).

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          Which is how we got the “oh my god shut up about how you can’t afford groceries or whatever it is you poors waste money on. The billionaires are doing fine and that means everything is solved. Now vote for us.” messaging from democrats in 2024.

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            “Here’s a graph that shows that, on average, real wages have gone up more than inflation!”

            “Well my wages haven’t gone up, and now I can’t afford groceries.”

            “Did you even look at the graph?”