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    3 days ago

    I totally agree, they should stop alienating the majority of voters by trying to appeal to radicals that actively smear the party.

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      Democrats will never accept that they cannot win republican votes by betraying the left.

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        First of all, they don’t betray the left on 99% of issues, it’s just that populist leftists consider anything less than maximal alignment “betrayal”.

        Second, Trump’s support is plummeting thanks to his disastrous administration, Democrats are poised to sweep the midterms, and it’s a safe bet the next 2 years will be even worse and result in a win in 2028. The slopulist voting block can shove it tbh, they aren’t needed.

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          First of all, they don’t betray the left on 99% of issues,

          Don’t lie. They betray the left on wages, worker protections, immigration, trans rights, cannabis legalization, healthcare, wall street reform, police reform, abortion, the Iraq war, the bank bailouts, childcare, family leave, voting rights, I can keep going but you get my point.

          Not only do they do all of that shit, they support an unconscionable genocide in Gaza.

          Not only that, they do everything they can to ratfuck any progressive candidate.

          The slopulist voting block can shove it tbh, they aren’t needed.

          The genocide wing said that in 2024 and now they blame the left.

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            Brah, Biden was out their saving pension funds, capping healthcare costs for diabetics, strengthening Medicare, and conditioning grant funding on providing good working conditions, wages, and affordable child care. He spent trillions and put worker protections and benefits into everything he passed.

            The guy was the most pro-worker US president I’ve ever seen.

            I actually don’t think you can keep going tbh, because it really looks like you scraped the barrel for every grievance and buzzword you have. Plus you mentioned Wall Street reform and bank bailouts separately, which seems like padding. Half of them prove my point because the Republicans are to blame.

            As for Gaza, I think you are a disgusting person for bringing it up in this conversation considering how many Palestinians would likely still be alive if Harris had won. Imagine trying to both sides with that issue of all things.

            And as far as I’m concerne, nobody needs to “rat fuck” progressives because they are perfectly capable of eating themselves at every opportunity.

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              As for Gaza, I think you are a disgusting person for bringing it up in this conversation considering how many Palestinians would likely still be alive if Harris had won. Imagine trying to both sides with that issue of all things.

              And I think you’re a disgusting person for carrying water for two genocidal pieces of shit long after the election is over. If Harris had put some daylight between herself and Biden on this issue, she might have won and then we wouldn’t be supporting genocide and we wouldn’t have expanded into Venezuela and Iran. But centrists considered that an acceptable price to pay for not having to lie about not wanting genocide for a few months.

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              my dude, 2 or 3 people were most of these

              My dude, democrats always find just enough turncoats. If we’re talking percentages here, legislators defect at a higher rate than the party accepts from voters.

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              I’m half convinced crab is a kremlin bot, his entire comment history is just don’t vote for democrats.

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                I do get a sense that English isn’t his first language, but yea, he’s like a fire hose of divisive blackpill rhetoric.

                I don’t even think the ml’s would think it’s impressive enough to brigade, because as sloppy as they are, their talking points are usually more specific then this blind assertion and a laundry list of buzzwords.

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          You are so correct. Sorry you are getting down voted into oblivion. This place is full of people who read memes instead of long form news.