Many people on lemmy.ml deeply respect and admire authoritarian governments and organizations.

Iran, China, North Korea, Soviet Union…

The West has many flaws. But our flaws are nothing compared to these guys.

Iran hangs homosexuals. Iran shot 30,000 people in less than than 2 weeks. The Soviet Union had to build a fucking Iron wall to prevent people from escaping. The Soviets lied about the Chernobyl nuclear explosion. China censors the internet. China wants to eliminate Islam. North Korea is a totalitarian hellscape. Watching anime is a crime.

Why is lemmy.ml so fascinated with authoritarians?

  • deft@lemmy.wtf
    12·
    5 hours ago

    They haven’t imperialized it, I don’t think that’s really how you even say that, but they engage in imperialism especially in Africa. I think you’re just not willing to admit their behavior is literally by definition imperialism especially because a huge intent is to weaken western influence, the whole goal of imperialism is influence. So if you engage with trying to influence another country, you’re doing an imperialism.

    China is definitely socialist I’m not denying that, they have socialist structures and aspects. But acting like they’re not imperialistic and don’t engage with any capitalism just isn’t true and they’re things people around here really believe they are and it comes off as either ignorant or like you’re shilling some crap. You know? It’s polarizing to be dishonest.

    • freagle@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      4 hours ago

      but they engage in imperialism especially in Africa

      What are you talking about? They absolutely do not.

      the whole goal of imperialism is influence

      Then you’re doing an imperialism right now by trying to influence people. What even is this definition? You can’t be serious.

      So if you engage with trying to influence another country, you’re doing an imperialism.

      Wow. So the ONLY thing that’s not imperialism is just doing what other countries tell you do, but never attempting to influence anyone else? Tell me more about your understanding of politics.

      • deft@lemmy.wtf
        12·
        3 hours ago

        The belt and road initiative is an example of imperialism. If you don’t understand that then everything else you understand is wrong completely. It’s literally the definition of imperialism.

        I’m not a country influencing a country with policies and diplomacy. Nice try though.

        You guys don’t understand imperialism that simple. A country influencing another, that’s imperialism there’s really no other way around it. You’d call the one who is doing the most influencing in the world, imperialist countries.