You have to wonder how many accounts are people trying to drive disengagement with the process as well, then. Cause there’s a hell of a lot more “dont bother participating cause we’re all doomed” commenters than those sucking off the DNC.
It’s possible. Stanning for DNC leadership seems weirder to me than being blackpilled about democratic participation, though. I don’t agree with either position, but being jaded is at least understandable to me.
And you don’t think that’s a problem? That you identify more with people who’d rather do nothing and let everything burn down around you out of spite than do literally anything to help?
It’s not even like they’re saying “This person is the greatest person who ever existed and should lead the world!” They’re just saying “This guy isn’t as bad as you make him out to be, maybe give the process a chance instead of giving up entirely”.
Don’t put words in my mouth. Being jaded is understandable because of the extremely obvious flaws in our democracy and the negligible correlation between what voters want and what they get, and being dismissive of the DNC leadership is equally understandable given the canyon between them and their voters on Israel, money in politics, and the relationship between workers and capital.
I never said burn it all down, and explicitly said I disagree with the blackpilled. Your representation of what I said is so dishonest I’m wondering if you’re an alt account.
I find irrational hope and irrational despair equally easy to understand, but I’m always gonna side with irrational hope over irrational despair.
What I don’t understand is thinking that irrational hope is a billionaire ploy but irrational despair isn’t. Have you seen the world in the last 6 years? The billionaires love despair and hate hope.
I’m on the Wachowskis’ side with thinking that love and hope are inherently revolutionary. All of their movies are about people who believe in hope overthrowing the ruling class. The Matrix, V for Vendetta, Speed Racer…
I find it amusing that dbzer0 is all “Don’t advocate for electoralism (which we define as voting at all) here, you have the rest of Lemmy to do that” when the ratio is so unbalanced.
I mean, probably not. Part of me thinks it’s that it’s just easier to bitch online and wear that than join a community or instance that actually expects something of you.
You have to wonder how many accounts are people trying to drive disengagement with the process as well, then. Cause there’s a hell of a lot more “dont bother participating cause we’re all doomed” commenters than those sucking off the DNC.
It’s possible. Stanning for DNC leadership seems weirder to me than being blackpilled about democratic participation, though. I don’t agree with either position, but being jaded is at least understandable to me.
And you don’t think that’s a problem? That you identify more with people who’d rather do nothing and let everything burn down around you out of spite than do literally anything to help?
It’s not even like they’re saying “This person is the greatest person who ever existed and should lead the world!” They’re just saying “This guy isn’t as bad as you make him out to be, maybe give the process a chance instead of giving up entirely”.
Don’t put words in my mouth. Being jaded is understandable because of the extremely obvious flaws in our democracy and the negligible correlation between what voters want and what they get, and being dismissive of the DNC leadership is equally understandable given the canyon between them and their voters on Israel, money in politics, and the relationship between workers and capital.
I never said burn it all down, and explicitly said I disagree with the blackpilled. Your representation of what I said is so dishonest I’m wondering if you’re an alt account.
I find irrational hope and irrational despair equally easy to understand, but I’m always gonna side with irrational hope over irrational despair.
What I don’t understand is thinking that irrational hope is a billionaire ploy but irrational despair isn’t. Have you seen the world in the last 6 years? The billionaires love despair and hate hope.
I’m on the Wachowskis’ side with thinking that love and hope are inherently revolutionary. All of their movies are about people who believe in hope overthrowing the ruling class. The Matrix, V for Vendetta, Speed Racer…
I find it amusing that dbzer0 is all “Don’t advocate for electoralism (which we define as voting at all) here, you have the rest of Lemmy to do that” when the ratio is so unbalanced.
Are there even ANY pro-voting instances?
I mean, probably not. Part of me thinks it’s that it’s just easier to bitch online and wear that than join a community or instance that actually expects something of you.