it’s got wheels and a motor, it’s a motor vehicle and should be treated as such
Are you in favor of licensing and testing for other things that fit this definition? What about those 12v plastic toy cars that are sized for children? What about mobility carts for the elderly?
I have nothing to contribute here except sharing my one anecdote about this, which is that I once personally witnessed a guy on one of those electric mobility scooters receive a DUI because he was trundling it down the shoulder of the road, presumably while smelling of beer. Given the individual in question the latter part wasn’t much of a stretch. So in some cases, i.e. the ones where the law can be used to harass you, they actually are considered motor vehicles already!
No argument against what you said, but technically receiving a ticket doesn’t mean it’s a valid ticket or that you’ll be found guilty in court. I have no clue if what you described as legal or not. But I do remember a guy using his riding lawn mower to get back and forth to the bar because he would drive home drunk and he lost his car driving privileges. I don’t remember ever hearing if he was ever stopped by law enforcement for driving drunk on it.
No. I’m telling a person to use the same logic for multiple things in the same category. I mentioned multiple electric vehicles that go slow speeds. Whataboutism would be if I said, “yeah but what about Donald Trump, he doesn’t follow rules so we shouldn’t. And what about guns having fewer restrictions than eBikes?” Bringing up entirely different subjects.
Are you in favor of licensing and testing for other things that fit this definition? What about those 12v plastic toy cars that are sized for children? What about mobility carts for the elderly?
I have nothing to contribute here except sharing my one anecdote about this, which is that I once personally witnessed a guy on one of those electric mobility scooters receive a DUI because he was trundling it down the shoulder of the road, presumably while smelling of beer. Given the individual in question the latter part wasn’t much of a stretch. So in some cases, i.e. the ones where the law can be used to harass you, they actually are considered motor vehicles already!
You can get a DUI on a horse too. In Japan you can get DUI on a bicycle, though I’ve never heard about that getting enforced against a non-foreigner.
No argument against what you said, but technically receiving a ticket doesn’t mean it’s a valid ticket or that you’ll be found guilty in court. I have no clue if what you described as legal or not. But I do remember a guy using his riding lawn mower to get back and forth to the bar because he would drive home drunk and he lost his car driving privileges. I don’t remember ever hearing if he was ever stopped by law enforcement for driving drunk on it.
Semantic whataboutism.
No. I’m telling a person to use the same logic for multiple things in the same category. I mentioned multiple electric vehicles that go slow speeds. Whataboutism would be if I said, “yeah but what about Donald Trump, he doesn’t follow rules so we shouldn’t. And what about guns having fewer restrictions than eBikes?” Bringing up entirely different subjects.