Roger and Lisa were running late. They were employed by Silverstein Properties at the time of the September 11 attacks, working in temporary offices in the North Tower. Sharon also played a role in the family business, with two of his three children serving as executives at the company. Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVKiu9Su6Ls
After almost 25 years now, there are more things we still can learn about that day. Silverstein had signed a 99-year lease for the World Trade Center complex just weeks before the attacks. Silverstein has stated that he typically attended meetings at the World Trade Center every morning. However, on 9/11, he did not go to the office due to a medical appointment. This detail has frequently resurfaced in documentaries, news reports, and online discussions as people revisit the events of that tragic day.
It basically was an immediate attack wasn’t it? What investigation led to the attack on them?
uh…not to be a pain, but they attacked the one country that had nothing to do with 9/11.
it was Saudi Arabia, with Bin Laden coordinating from Pakistan. But we can’t attack investors.
Saudi Arabia does have so much oil money.
Well, Osama bin Laden publicly taking credit for the attack was a big part.
He was known to be in Afghanistan, known to be part of al-Qaeda, and the Taliban was known to be sheltering and supporting Al-Qaeda.
The Taliban was the internationally recognized government of Afghanistan, which isn’t they were never declared a terrorist organization. When they outright said they would not extradite bin Laden to the US and openly refused to shut down terrorist bases or extradite other terrorists, the US invaded.
Don’t let the clusterfuck of the politics around Iraq cloud the invasion of Afghanistan. That one was extremely straightforward. The government of Afghanistan harbored and sheltered bin Laden, who very publicly claimed credit for 9/11, and then refused to do anything about it afterward.
Except he was in Pakistan. We were told he was in Afghanistan.
He was absolutely confirmed to be in Afghanistan until the battle of Tora Bora, when he fled to Pakistan.
A side note-don’t you think a terrorist would want credit for that even if they were not involved at all?
Sure. But it fit his MO and other intelligence data, so there’s no reason to doubt the claim.
Trying to replace a secret conspiracy with a different secret conspiracy that involves faking a secret conspiracy is just overly complicated for no reason, and only distracts from the actual issues around the cause of 9/11.
But no, it was definitely not the case that our intelligence services failed to evaluate a novel threat correctly, failed to properly prioritize it as a result which caused delayed responses, and that our air defense system was caught flat footed because the US is essentially isolated so readiness isn’t a priority.
Definitely not. If anything, the whole thing is actually evidence that the US is so competent that the whole thing can be nearly flawlessly faked. Except for that one building they blew up over the open radio broadcast for no real reason.
They were already there they started capturing and killing known enemies immediately it ramped up as military logistics ramped up. John Kiriakou has spoken a fair bit about the days weeks and months after 9/11 on the podcast circuit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSFo5cNze2U
What are you talking about?
Here’s the top answer to ‘legal problems caused by WTC attacks’
https://www.forensisgroup.com/resources/expert-legal-witness-blog/legal-battle-over-world-trade-center-property-damage-and-financial-losses
The war on brown people speaks for itself.
Oh, gotcha. It led to all the Middle Eastern hate after it. I was talking about how quick the U.S. was to attack the people right after.
US military involvement in the middle east didn’t start on 9/11
white people are such fucking bullies. spent decades fucking around the global stage, doing whatever the fuck they want, wars, stealing resources, destabilising democracies for puppet dictators. then when they history begins the moment consequences happen.
Not going to justify terror attacks, but it wasn’t because Bin Laden was mad that Americans had freedom and Jesus.
Yeah, I’m sure the problem is “white people” and not “billionaires, the capitalist system, and nation-state actors who are willing to enforce austerity on the poor in order to boost margins for the financial oligarchs.”
Why fix capitalism and oligarchy, when you could fix whiteness instead?
I swear, you’re just giving ammunition to the “white genocide” and “great replacement” conspiracy theorists when you say shit like that.
Those are problems too. but we need some serious antiracism work. There is a reason my local DSA chapter, despite a town that is half black, is exclusively white and does jack shit.
Unless we solve white people’s racism, even the not Billionaires, nothing will be done.
Yes, I’m sure those DSA members are all racists and it’s not the PoCs refusing to work with white people if it means cooperation instead of grandstanding to win the oppression olympics.
They might be able to get more done with, you know, more voter support? That’s kinda what it takes in a democracy to have any political influence.
Who do the black people in your town vote for?
Yes, they are,
Every other meeting there were new black members who left after a couple of sessions because they felt unwelcomed. the black caucus get’s ignored and it’s leadership is annoyed with that too (I am in her book club).
This isn’t the racism of “fuck them N…” but more the racism of “I am not racist therefore I don’t have to care about racism, and if told otherwise, they are the real racists, I AM A GOOD PERSON”. Ie the colorblid version of racism.
If a political group centered on democratic socialism is trying to have a meeting focused on labor rights, tax reform, and social welfare, and you show up trying to constantly derail every conversation to be about racism because “NO! We can only talk about things that exclusively benefit me and my community, and anything focused on uplifting the whole working class and all the poor is just colorblind racism!”, then yeah you should be ignored.
Be a team player and stay on topic. You can have your focus groups and book clubs all you want, but if you want to dominate every conversation and make it about one thing, and bully people into submission by crying “racism,” then that word is going to lose its meaning and people are going to stop caring.
If you can’t work with working class white leftists to achieve common goals, just because they’re white, then yeah you’re the racists.
Otherwise we can accomplish nothing because the feminists and the anti-racists and the queers will all be infighting over who’s the most oppressed and who deserves the most pity and who gets to dominate every conversation and who’s not marginalized enough to speak at this meeting. And the black lesbians will all be burnt out and exhausted because obvs they’re the most oppressed so they need to do everything, and everyone else is just being performative in one way or another!
Hell, for that matter, good luck getting the Asians and the Hispanics and the Middle Easterners and the Natives and the Black people to all work together towards common goals, if you really want to make race such a wedge issue.
It’s not racist to say “fuck all that, we’ll all be better off in a socialist system, so lets put our differences aside and work towards that instead of bickering about who’s the most oppressed.” The billionaires are our enemies, not each other.
Ah yes, the Great White Monilith. Our power is unmatched. Give us enough time and we shall meld into one, great Super White and bully the stars!
Shut the fuck up
yes, it fucking is.
even poor white people are enjoying privilege of colonialism. And like you said, don’t give a fuck.
“He’s privileged to be living under a bridge in a moldy jacket because he’s white.”
No time for this idiot logic.
Better than how poor people are treated in the poor countries we exploit to have a nice life