Based on recent comments this feels like a discussion we should have. So…topic, basically.
I’m not looking to be chief noisemaker on this, but I stand by what I wrote in !privacy and what’s in my post history.
https://lemmy.ml/post/48724623/26190950
Let’s have at; do we want a [AI] and [NOT AI] tag. Why or why not?
Hey, even Che Guvera wore a Rolex. :)
PS: I think you’re circling something though - people are objecting to the idea of what they think AI is, based on emotional appeal. It’s a category error.
As in - you know damn well that the correct tool for sentiment analysis is an AI but you’d rather avoid using it because … whatever.
It’s that “because whatever” I’m pointing at, because right now it’s unexamined and at best scores you a pyrrhic victory. Sentence transformers, rankers and re-rankers are AI, the right tool for the job and you won’t use them because… Ai bad.
(You in the general sense, not you you).
“Small,” non-generative, BERT-like models, would probably be more appropriate.
Anthropic does sentiment analysis with regex in Claude Code though ¯\(ツ)/¯
Because use of AI is bad for me. YMMV.
I’m midly curious as to how.
How would (say) you using Qwen 3.5 4B be bad for you (specifically) in this case?
Qwen’s open weights, already trained, runs locally on your rig, doesn’t leak PII to the cloud and does the job.
Surely if AI discussion in feeds is causing grief, anything that removes that for you (your stated intention) is “good” for you?
I find that whenever I have used AI to find a solution, I have forfeited learning, so I avoid it completely so that I can learn about the thing that AI would have otherwise shortcut for me. Regarding this specific example, while it may or may not be the case that AI is the best tool for sentiment analysis, it’s not the best or most efficient tool for keyword filtering, and keyword filtering is all I’d really need. In the event that I cared enough about the filtering to find or build a solution, it wouldn’t be with AI for this reason, but also because of the aforementioned reasons. Even if they’re not applicable to this very scenario, I’d rather not involve myself in the technology at all if I can help it.
Can we talk shop? I don’t want to come across as badgering you if you’re happy to put a pin in it, but I think this is a bad take. Like, if you’re going to try and solve this with Regex soup and spite, it’s going to hurt.
What happens if Codex, Claude, Cursor, LLM or phrases like “machine learning”, “generative ai” etc are mentioned?
Or when someone wants to have a discussion like this?
\bAI\b will miss almost all of it.
Note: I have no stake in you using or not using AI, an I am not trying to convert you to the church of Latter day Aiology. I am simply trying to [
]avoid doing real work[] chat.Well, as I said I’m not really going to try to solve it. I prefer to not see headlines that talk about AI, politics and some other things, and I’ll filter them out and I’ll use the tools that are already available to me to do so. Now if my RSS app came out with a feature that used AI sentiment analysis to filter out those topics, I’d probably switch it on, but I’m not going to involve myself in solving the problem in any regard, but in the hypothetical, “regex soup” would rank higher than AI.
OK, fair but…“I’d rather have worse outcomes than touch AI” is sort of wedged against “I’d use AI if it was bundled with my RSS reader”, no?
Is it LLMs you object to, specifically, or ML in general? Would you use TinyBERT or E5 (language classifiers)?
Yeah, well, you’re talking to a human with contradictions and biases. I don’t want to use it, but I suppose the scenario presented is the lesser of two evils for me personally.
I don’t know what a language classifier is. I’m chatting to you about it because you seem interested, but otherwise I prefer to live as though none of this exists. That might make me some kind of luddite.
I’ve come to the same place with politics. It got to a point recently where, in my opinion, the worst possible act has been committed by the most powerful people with the most concrete evidence that we’re ever going to see. In my mind it was the ultimate test to see if we mere mortals had any sort of control over justice and unchecked power. Once it became evident to me that we don’t, I have completely checked out, and will now live my life in ignorance to politics, because if I don’t have control, and it depresses me, the best thing for me to do is try to carve out a little slice of this world to live in ignorant contentment.