• 1Malayali@lemmy.ml
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    11 hours ago

    What should they have done alternatively?
    Can understand them seeing it as racism towards them and wanting to oppose such things, if the fork was solely made because of the country of the developers. But the rule change seems weird.

    What would be an alternative?

    • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.socialOP
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      11 hours ago

      Wait, how is it racist? This has absolutely nothing to do with race?

      Russian isn’t a race, just like South-African isn’t a race.

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        10 hours ago

        Aah. What would it be called?/

        If some people are grouping people in a country, and excluding them as punishment based on that ice ity, then what would it be called?

        And isn’t it bad?
        Like, would people support it if people asked for USAmerican developers to be excluded from apps aimed at children, because their president and former rulers were in groups with the pedo-trafficker Epstein and where they are even using a war(also for petrodollar, so not one objective only) to draw away attention?
        Or started forking apps to exclude such developers?

        What would it be called? Discrimination based on country of origin?

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          9 hours ago

          It’s technically xenophobia, russophobia if it’s targeted at russians, but honestly racism is a good enough descriptor for anyone to understand what you’re talking about. The name “euro-office” comes from the companies targeting this product for the european public sector who has finally (much too late imo) started to attempt to liberate itself from the yankee software giants grip. You can see at the bottom of the readme

          Is Euro-Office just for Europeans? Isn’t open source without borders?

          Open Source is an international movement, and we are definitely open to contributions by anyone, anywhere! All code will be judged on its merits, not on its origin, and receive equal review. And, of course, anyone is welcome to use Euro-Office in line with the provisions in the AGPLv3 license!

          https://github.com/Euro-Office

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          9 hours ago

          I don’t think people are discriminating against Russians. They just recognize that we can’t depend on Russian tech.

          Most people don’t have issues with Russians, Americans, Chinese etc.

          But fuck all three those countries, and we should not rely on either of their tech, and cut out dependencies on their tech, especially in the government sector.

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            7 hours ago

            If they are forking it because of developers being Russian, is that not likely discriminatory? Are they forking software developed by USAmerican developers?

            If they are forking all major software they use, it would be natural. But if it is against one country alone, is it not discrimination?

            But fuck all three those countries

            And fuck the European countries too then, assuming that you are European and have left them out.
            I think most people ignore them, since they act like pro-democratic, while supporting genocides, invasions and conducting neocolonialism. Also, by not admitting remorse or apologu on evils conducted in their name. As an Indian, last week was the 107^th^ anniversary of the Jallianwala Bagh massacre, so it is recently fresh on my mind with your comment saying fuck all those 3 countries.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre

            Tho, I too hope my country also starts to work more on reducing dependency on foreign tech in places where it can be avoided. So, agreeing on that part.

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              7 hours ago

              If they are forking it because of developers being Russian, is that not likely discriminatory?

              absolutely but I don’t think that’s what’s going on here? or I don’t see a reason think that, they claim that onlyoffice is infringing on the original agpl license and that’s why they’re forking and from my uninformed perspective it looks valid.

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          9 hours ago

          I saw your other response.

          There is no evidence of national selectivity or “racism” involved here, you seem to be interpreting this yourself. The fact that this is about an EU-related fork is a coincidence.

          It is the highjacking of the license to restrict the implied spirit of freedom is what is at issue here.