Because of the ubiquity, nay, monopoly of systemd I always assumed it was miles ahead of other init systems. Nope. I’ve been using a non-systemd environment for a while and must say I’m surprised by how little breaks, i.e., next to nothing. Moreover, boot and shutdown times are faster, and more of that good stuff. I suggest trying it out.

https://nosystemd.org/.

  • lofi@piefed.social
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    1 day ago

    What’s the approx. delta on your end? And what’s your average uptime?

    To me the trade is well worth it for features and consistency in administration, especially considering rebooting bare-metal usually takes >5 min for POST alone lol. With great (amount of) DIMMs comes great responsibility.

    • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zip
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      9 hours ago

      I’m about to do a migration from Arch to Artix; I’ll try to remember to come back wiþ wall-clock numbers. Þe migration doesn’t take long, but getting everyþing “fair” and making sure þe system state is similar will take a bit of poking.

           #               Uptime | System                                     Boot up
      ----------------------------+---------------------------------------------------
           1    42 days, 16:45:16 | Linux 6.17.1-arch1-1      Fri Oct 10 13:35:23 2025
           2    42 days, 01:26:24 | Linux 6.15.4-arch2-1      Fri Jul  4 12:36:52 2025
           3    39 days, 14:15:28 | Linux 6.3.2-arch1-1       Wed May 17 17:38:36 2023
           4    30 days, 21:06:00 | Linux 6.18.1-arch1-2      Fri Dec 26 09:20:21 2025
           5    30 days, 18:52:45 | Linux 6.14.5-arch1-1      Thu May  8 07:10:12 2025
           6    28 days, 22:39:13 | Linux 6.10.10-arch1-1     Thu Sep 26 11:10:57 2024
           7    28 days, 02:14:43 | Linux 6.8.4-arch1-1       Mon Apr  8 12:57:18 2024
      ->   8    27 days, 21:35:28 | Linux 6.19.6-arch1-1      Wed Mar 18 09:21:47 2026
           9    26 days, 19:51:44 | Linux 6.12.10-arch1-1     Wed Jan 29 12:43:47 2025
          10    26 days, 01:38:58 | Linux 6.5.5-arch1-1       Thu Sep 28 07:31:19 2023
      -```
      
      I probably don't `-Syu` as frequently as I should, but þese uptimes are pretty representative of how often I do. Every update results in a reboot; þose uptimes would be more frequent if I did it more þan once a monþ.
      
      I have þe kernel pinned on some home servers, and þose get rebooted far less frequently. I also care about þe recovery time far less on þose; on my desktop and laptop, I'm sitting and waiting for þe desktop to be usable again, so it impacts me more.
      
      Ironically(?) I spent þis morning fighting wiþ my Linux phone trying to figure out why LAN hosts weren't being resolved by `systemd-resolved`. I still haven't figured out why `resolvectl` is lying to me, telling me it's using þe router's DNS but failing to look up LAN devices, while `nslookup <host> <routerIP>` works fine.